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Old 05-18-2014, 09:40 AM
 
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OP and others: Why is wealth redistribution applauded when it is redistributed from the poor and working classes to the wealthy and completely evil when it goes the other way? The answer that the rich work harder or smarter or just deserve to inherit fortunes are not realistic answers.
Platitude flinging at its most inane.

How does one get rich stealing from poor people?

A famous bank robber was once asked why he robbed banks. He answered "that is where they keep the money".

So you offer that the rich people get and stay that way by taking from those with empty bank vaults, i.e. "the poor".

Brilliance only a left-wing tin-foil-hat wearer could buy into.

In your "mind", rich people get that way, not by working hard, by application of talents and effort, buy by stealing from those with nothing to steal.
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Old 05-18-2014, 09:50 AM
 
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But nobody know the republican position.... You guys want less government but never said how much less exactly? What are you guys planning to eliminate? The IRS? USDA? Dept of energy? State? Traffic laws or FDIC? Maybe the laws of physics while you're at it?
Do you guys realize that Canada avoided the housing crash simply because it had "more" government which strictly regulated the banking industry? Unlike ours....

And why the last time there was a Republican president you guys introduced a big-brother, big-government legislation like Patriot Act? I thought you guys wanted less and not more government? Or maybe you just want "less" of the other guys government but "more" of your own? Lol

If I were you, I'd rather go with "Less doesn't mean NONE" then with any other nonsense you propose. At least "Less doesn't mean NONE" is catchy.
I am a Conservative. I am NOT a Republican, and you should really try to get a grip. Sanity seems to be eluding your posts.

Government CAUSED the housing crisis. A bill, passed under Carter, and given renewed emphasis by Clinton, mandated the issuance of loans to unqualified "borrowers" in yet another attempt to make silk purses out of sow's ears. If failed, and took down much of the housing market, and the last few years of Bush's Presidency, It was OVER-regulation brought upon us by Liberals that caused it. As I recall, it was called the Urban Redevelopment Act.
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Old 05-18-2014, 09:56 AM
 
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But nobody know the republican position.... You guys want less government but never said how much less exactly? What are you guys planning to eliminate? The IRS? USDA? Dept of energy? State? Traffic laws or FDIC? Maybe the laws of physics while you're at it?
Do you guys realize that Canada avoided the housing crash simply because it had "more" government which strictly regulated the banking industry? Unlike ours....

And why the last time there was a Republican president you guys introduced a big-brother, big-government legislation like Patriot Act? I thought you guys wanted less and not more government? Or maybe you just want "less" of the other guys government but "more" of your own? Lol

If I were you, I'd rather go with "Less doesn't mean NONE" then with any other nonsense you propose. At least "Less doesn't mean NONE" is catchy.
How many branches of federal law enforcement do we need? ATF, FBI, US Marshals, Secrete Service, DEA etc.
How big does the EPA have to be?
Why do congressmen get to fly first class on the tax payers dime? Why not business class or economy?
There are a great many cuts that can be made to stream line the fed that would save many billions of dollars. I include cutting the Military, but with that would include cutting their missions and stop using them as world cops.
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Old 05-18-2014, 10:03 AM
 
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How many branches of federal law enforcement do we need? ATF, FBI, US Marshals, Secrete Service, DEA etc.
How big does the EPA have to be?
Why do congressmen get to fly first class on the tax payers dime? Why not business class or economy?
There are a great many cuts that can be made to stream line the fed that would save many billions of dollars. I include cutting the Military, but with that would include cutting their missions and stop using them as world cops.
Who do you propose BE the world's cop.

You do know that there will be either a world's cop or a world's bully.

Would you prefer Putin as the world's bully, or the U.S. as the world's cop?
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Old 05-18-2014, 04:12 PM
 
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Platitude flinging at its most inane.

How does one get rich stealing from poor people?


A famous bank robber was once asked why he robbed banks. He answered "that is where they keep the money".

So you offer that the rich people get and stay that way by taking from those with empty bank vaults, i.e. "the poor".

Brilliance only a left-wing tin-foil-hat wearer could buy into.

In your "mind", rich people get that way, not by working hard, by application of talents and effort, buy by stealing from those with nothing to steal.

??? Some examples include slumlords, payday loans, pawn shops.

There is a lot of money to be made from people in financial distress.
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Old 05-18-2014, 04:14 PM
 
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??? Some examples include slumlords, payday loans, pawn shops.

There is a lot of money to be made from people in financial distress.
They volunteer to give up their money.
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Old 05-18-2014, 04:24 PM
 
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I am a Conservative. I am NOT a Republican, and you should really try to get a grip. Sanity seems to be eluding your posts.

Government CAUSED the housing crisis. A bill, passed under Carter, and given renewed emphasis by Clinton, mandated the issuance of loans to unqualified "borrowers" in yet another attempt to make silk purses out of sow's ears. If failed, and took down much of the housing market, and the last few years of Bush's Presidency, It was OVER-regulation brought upon us by Liberals that caused it. As I recall, it was called the Urban Redevelopment Act.

??? Perhaps if government did not regulate housing into unaffordability, we would have avoided this mess. Jack Kemp rised his voice, but most conservatives didn't care as long as their property values kept rising and poorer people couldn't move ibto their neighborhood.
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Old 05-18-2014, 04:29 PM
 
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They volunteer to give up their money.

Well duh, by definition, people in financial distress have to give up SOMETHING, one way or another. If the distressed person didn't volunteer to give up their money, you would blame them for choosing to be homeless, to incur a late fee for not paying the rent/utilities on time, or for whatever else they "chose" to give up.
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Old 05-18-2014, 04:32 PM
 
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Well duh, by definition, people in financial distress have to give up SOMETHING, one way or another. If the distressed person didn't volunteer to give up their money, you would blame them for choosing to be homeless, to incur a late fee for not paying the rent/utilities on time, or for whatever else they "chose" to give up.
Yes.....we all control our own destiny.
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Old 05-18-2014, 04:33 PM
 
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and Republicans will be blamed if they balk at raising the debt ceiling to pay for it.
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