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Old 05-18-2014, 04:55 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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??? Perhaps if government did not regulate housing into unaffordability, we would have avoided this mess. Jack Kemp rised his voice, but most conservatives didn't care as long as their property values kept rising and poorer people couldn't move ibto their neighborhood.
Your beef has always been with local zoning laws
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Old 05-18-2014, 04:58 PM
 
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Another utterly-failed attempt. I'd give it up if I were you.

Libs are always using the strawman technique of changing conservative's position and then arguing against that false position.

We advocate LESS government, not "NO" government.

Re-read as necessary until you "get it".
Liberals do that with everything

The right says "pay less taxes" --> the left hears "pay no taxes"
The right says "smaller government" ---> The left hears "no government"

Liberals version of compromise --> All or or none,

Libs are asked to compromise ---> Libs think obstructionist
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Old 05-18-2014, 05:15 PM
 
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??? Some examples include slumlords, payday loans, pawn shops.

There is a lot of money to be made from people in financial distress.
It's up to the people to be smart and not to be taken advantage of. Others shouldn't have to watch them like children.

Of the people who bought a house they couldn't afford. If someone tried to tell them it was a bad move do you think they would listen? Of course not.

And to answer your room dilemma did you consider a storage unit close to you? (just brainstorming a solution)
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Old 05-18-2014, 05:18 PM
 
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If government regulation drives up rents 50 percent, how are the affected renters in control of their own destiny?
Stop voting for politicians that promise the moon (subsidies and free stuff) to get votes ... All they do is drive prices up for everyone.
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Old 05-18-2014, 05:22 PM
 
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Same BS except worse.

You would have the MOOCHERS eyes go the size of pizza-pies...when they realize Fedgov is "redistributing" even more goodies.
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Old 05-18-2014, 05:24 PM
 
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Don't change the subject. You know regulations are there to protect consumers from fraudulent businesses, there is thousands of the shut down by the government every year. You want to get rid of these regulations?
Are you insane?
The government didn't do a good job when it came to mortgage bankers did it now? In fact they used the easing of "regulations" to appease their voters. Now everyone is paying and the banks are STILL in business. So much for "government regulations"

If I have to spell it out to you... In this case government abused it's power ... government regulations for votes. In other cases they do it for money.

Manipulation done in the name of helping the poor, what has government done? They made more poor.
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Old 05-18-2014, 05:26 PM
 
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Of course, after all the $7.75 minimum wage provides just that: a good life ROTFL
It's YOUR choice NOT to improve your skills therefore it's YOUR choice to work for that wage.
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Old 05-18-2014, 05:29 PM
 
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Of course, after all the $7.75 minimum wage provides just that: a good life ROTFL
Don't blame me because you have no value.
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Old 05-18-2014, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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Every economic system is structured around the redistribution of wealth. The only question is in regards to the direction of flow taken by that redistribution: does wealth flow from those with an excess to those with a deficit, or does it flow form those already impoverished to those already living in luxury.

The current system in The United State is designed to ensure the latter. This works out very well for the small number of individuals at the top of the scale, less well for those who are starting with virtually nothing, and seeing that little bit taken away.

As the avarice of the few continues to systematically lower the standards of the traditional middle class, the numbers of disenfranchised Americans will increase accordingly. We are soon to be left looking much like Cuba under Batista: an oligarchy in which a very small fraction of citizens enjoy a lavish and protected lifestyle--while the overwhelming majority of citizens struggle to participate in the basics of human existence.

Since The United States' political system is tightly controlled by a duopoly of hyper-capitalist political parties, it would seem unlikely that change will occur via any kind of democratic process. At any rate, the "American Dream" of past generations has become little more than a historical relic. So, perhaps in a generation or two the revolution will occur.
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Old 05-18-2014, 05:55 PM
 
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We are soon to be left looking much like Cuba under Batista: an oligarchy in which a very small fraction of citizens enjoy a lavish and protected lifestyle--while the overwhelming majority of citizens struggle to participate in the basics of human existence.
And then Castro came along promising to save the day. We all see how that worked out. And Obama is making the same promises that Castro did. You might be right, if Obama gets his way, we might be looking like Cuba.
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