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Old 08-29-2014, 10:13 AM
 
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Originally Posted by workingclasshero View Post
meanwhile William Thompson is a phoney

•Let’s not forget one important scientific fact–after 15 years of looking, and looking hard in huge studies, no legitimate research has shown any link between vaccines, specifically the MMR vaccine, and autism. None. None. None.

oh no..debunked again
Try to focus.

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Originally Posted by Hyperthetic View Post

Should scientific data be falsified (by omission) for - "the greater good"?

"August 27, 2014 Press Release, "Statement of William W. Thompson, Ph.D., Regarding the 2004 Article Examining the Possibility of a Relationship Between MMR Vaccine and Autism"

"My name is William Thompson. I am a Senior Scientist with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, where I have worked since 1998."

"I regret that my coauthors and I omitted statistically significant information in our 2004 article published in the journal Pediatrics. The omitted data suggested that African American males who received the MMR vaccine before age 36 months were at increased risk for autism. Decisions were made regarding which findings to report after the data were collected, and I believe that the final study protocol was not followed."

CNN cover up on MMR vaccine link to Autism

Are you being paid overtime for your hours of contribution to DAMAGE CONTROL?

You must be some kind of firefighter, or something.

Truth fighter?

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Old 08-29-2014, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Phoney? Does that have something to do with a phone? Oh, I get it, you meant to say, phony. Wake up buddy. This is a real scandal that is going on in the real world involving real scientists, one of whom is now known as a whistleblower, and the very real, CDC, and possibly young African American boys who may have been victims. There is nothing phony or even phoney(?) about this scandal.
uhm..you wake up

the guy 'thompson'...phony
the guy hooker...' phoney
the link....to a garbage site

this isn't real..its phony

its like saying chemtrails are real....but they are not
 
Old 08-29-2014, 10:27 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by Hyperthetic View Post
Try to focus.




Are you being paid overtime for your hours of contribution to DAMAGE CONTROL?

You must be some kind of firefighter, or something.

Truth fighter?
meanwhile there is no CNN coverup (the op)
meanwhile there is no CDC coverup
meanwhile someone CLAIMING to be a "William Thompson member of CDC" is saying this
meanwhile a NON_MEDICAL guy named hooker is CONING YOU

to people who are familiar with the anti-vaccine movement, Hooker and Wakefield are household names. Wakefield has become famous for his scientific fraudulence


if this is REALLY the William Thompson of the CDC, why not 'whistleblow" on ACTUAL CNN, OR MSNBC, OR FOX.....OR ON THE CDC itself

you do understand the iCNN is a USER news site, where ANYBODY can upload what they think is news, real or not real
 
Old 08-29-2014, 10:31 AM
 
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Originally Posted by workingclasshero View Post
uhm..you wake up

the guy 'thompson'...phony
the guy hooker...' phoney
the link....to a garbage site

this isn't real..its phony

its like saying chemtrails are real....but they are not
Please expand. What is "phony" about Thompson? He is an award winning senior researcher at the CDC where he has worked for a number of years. It seems his conscience pushed him to speak out about a conspiracy to which he was involved in that involved decisions to omit statistically significant findings that showed African American males were at increased risk of autism if they got their MMR shot before a certain age as opposed to after a certain age. He also admits that proper protocols were not followed. What evidence do you have that this man is "phony"?

Hooker? How is he "phoney"? He is a scientist. He has his PHD. He published a peer reviewed study recently in a medical journal. Do you think he's "phoney" because his point of view in regards to vaccines does not match yours? Please explain further. I'm not going to take your word for it.

Garbage sites? Most news sites have garbage on them mixed in with news. It's pretty common unfortunately. Why single out this one in particular?

What about it isn't real? How is it phony? Please expand.

What do chemtrails have to do with this?
 
Old 08-29-2014, 10:35 AM
 
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if this is REALLY the William Thompson of the CDC, why not 'whistleblow" on ACTUAL CNN, OR MSNBC, OR FOX.....OR ON THE CDC itself
Because the mainstream media will not report this. They don't want to talk to Thompson. They don't want to draw attention to this story. They will not assist in drawing negative attention to the CDC even when it's warranted. This should be a clue that the "trusted" "news" sources are not exactly interested in true journalism as we know it.
 
Old 08-29-2014, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Let the sheep vaccinate themselves and their children...not our concern. Those of us that are EDUCATED on the subject know the truth and we know better to put the poisons in our bodies or our children's bodies. No point in arguing with a dead horse...they all think they know better.
You have more chance of dieing from getting a tattoo than a vaccination.....
 
Old 08-29-2014, 11:02 AM
 
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you do understand the iCNN is a USER news site, where ANYBODY can upload what they think is news, real or not real
There is a screening process, just as there is with City Data.
 
Old 08-29-2014, 12:00 PM
 
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FWIW, there are certainly a lot of parents who witnessed their child change right after the vaccine. Who knows their child better than the child's own parents?

This documentary is pretty interesting. It takes a hard look at whether or not the vaccines are causing some collateral damage.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnxAsrAK2hw

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Old 08-29-2014, 11:45 PM
 
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what we should care about is how GOOD vaccinations are

but you always look for the bad and the governmental conspiracy

you have been schooled so many times on this

fact autism is genetic and not cause by vaccinations...that is fact
This is a completely subjective and absolute statement that seems to have no basis. Where is this so-called conspiracy? You are claiming a conspiracy. I haven't seen MT state anything like that. "always look for the bad"? What does this even mean?

As to all the factors in Autism spectrum disorders, I am unaware of a comprehensive conclusion for such a large topic.
 
Old 08-30-2014, 12:11 AM
 
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Originally Posted by workingclasshero View Post
meanwhile there is no CNN coverup (the op)
meanwhile there is no CDC coverup
meanwhile someone CLAIMING to be a "William Thompson member of CDC" is saying this
meanwhile a NON_MEDICAL guy named hooker is CONING YOU

to people who are familiar with the anti-vaccine movement, Hooker and Wakefield are household names. Wakefield has become famous for his scientific fraudulence


if this is REALLY the William Thompson of the CDC, why not 'whistleblow" on ACTUAL CNN, OR MSNBC, OR FOX.....OR ON THE CDC itself

you do understand the iCNN is a USER news site, where ANYBODY can upload what they think is news, real or not real
Have no idea, but the statement posted here was on the news section of an attorneys site. Looked like they may have been representing him. As to whistle-blowing. Have you not seen how WBs are treated in this country? On the CDC site, really?

Do you not look at who is invested here and the patents? There is a lot of money being made. Vaccines are ongoing volume repeat business, year after year. (Unlike a product like "Lyrica", where they need to keep coming up with new uses and fighting over patents.) If one develops an allergy, that too can usually become an ongoing revenue stream. Autoimmunity is an area that is hugely important and more studies are needed here.

Self-Organized Criticality Theory of Autoimmunity
quote:
Systemic autoimmunity appears to be the inevitable consequence of over-stimulating the host's immune ‘system’ by repeated immunization with antigen, to the levels that surpass system's self-organized criticality.

This is a good discussion about autoimmunity.
http://www.plosmedicine.org/article/...l.pmed.0030297


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Have you looked at who the Big 6 is? Fortune 500? To say nothing of advertising dollars or investments.

Major Drug Companies and the Media - Suite

Single-Payer & Interlocking Directorates

Media Corporation Insurance & Pharmaceutical Companies

Disney/ABC - Proctor & Gamble
GE/NBC - Chubb, Novartis, Proctor & Gamble, Merck
Time Warner - AIG, Health Cap, Paratek Pharmaceuticals
Fox/News Corp - GlaxoSmithKline, Genentech, Hybritech
New York Times Co. - First Health Group, Eli Lilly
Tribune Co. - Abbott Labs, Middelbrook Pharmaceuticals
Gannett/USA - Today Chubb
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