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Old 10-15-2014, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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It doesn’t matter how much you plan,” Dr. Bruce Ribner, an infectious disease specialist ( Emroy) who directed the patients’ care, said in an interview. “You’re going to be wrong half the time.”
That is flawed logic. There have been no transmissions in the level IV biohazard hospitals with the proper equipment.
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Old 10-15-2014, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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The CDC lied...The CDC also hinted they didn't want to jump the gun into training everyone in every hospital. They thought it would just stop from isolating each person who came into contact.. after that the CDC's brain stopped.
CDC training everyone in 5000 + hospitals, in the US?

The first Ebola patient, diagnosed in Liberia was admitted to Emroy on 8/2. At the time, WHO had not yet declared Ebola an epidemic.
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Old 10-15-2014, 04:01 PM
 
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CDC training everyone in 5000 + hospitals, in the US?

The first Ebola patient, diagnosed in Liberia was admitted to Emroy on 8/2. At the time, WHO had not yet declared Ebola an epidemic.
No comment as to why didn't the CDC send at least one official to Dallas to oversee and educate?
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Old 10-15-2014, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Obama says "he is confident" that the odds are "extraordinarily low" of widespread Ebola outbreak here in the states...

Yeah, and you can keep your doctor if you want to.

When will Obama learn his word means nothing? The majority of Americans have completely lost faith in him and put very little stock in his promises.

His refusal to take the absolutely necessary step of blocking travel to and from the affected areas is astounding.
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Old 10-15-2014, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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Obama the CDC don't really care about Ebola. If they did they would have acted proactively. What they ARE afraid of is civil unrest. Actually, they are terrified of it. So they proceed to offer tootsie roll logic to everyone in the populace via news channels and morons like Friedan and other CDC reps. Now, the ice cube is melting and people don't trust the CDC. In the next few weeks we will see if people keep it together....or not.

Bear in mind that 132 people on that plane all went home or to hotels and carried on with their lives. If they saw met hugged kissed 5 people that would be nearly 700 more exposures. The plane flew back and people sat in her seat. More potential contacts. The 700 quickly becomes 3500 to 16000...well you get the picture.

Intuitively people "get" this. That is the reality and that IS what the government wants to prevent so they mamby pampby and throw milk toast at the EXPENDABLE people.

This is not governance. It is playing the odds.
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Old 10-15-2014, 04:10 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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On that issue, I think this is the elephant in the room that has very ugly potential.

General Warns of 'Mass Migration' to U.S. if Ebola Comes to Americas
Someone posted this link the other day.

This 4 star general heard from somebody at some embassy that there were 2 random guys on foot preparing to cross from Costa Rica into Nicaragua. They were stopped and asked where they were from and where they were headed. These guys responded, they were from Liberia and headed to the US.

I guess this 4 star general never heard of Liberia, Costa Rica.
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Old 10-15-2014, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I'm skeptical that ebola is not contagious pre symptoms. HIV has a similar method of transmission and it's more contagious after initial infection just before the person develops acute retoviral syndrome.
Hiv can infect some people as carriers with no symptoms and can infect others . The virus hides in some people and is not active until years later , then the virus becomes active in their body.. sort of sleeping in the body yet able to infect other people.
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Old 10-15-2014, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Obama the CDC don't really care about Ebola. If they did they would have acted proactively. What they ARE afraid of is civil unrest. Actually, they are terrified of it. So they proceed to offer tootsie roll logic to everyone in the populace via news channels and morons like Friedan and other CDC reps. Now, the ice cube is melting and people don't trust the CDC. In the next few weeks we will see if people keep it together....or not.

Bear in mind that 132 people on that plane all went home or to hotels and carried on with their lives. If they saw met hugged kissed 5 people that would be nearly 700 more exposures. The plane flew back and people sat in her seat. More potential contacts. The 700 quickly becomes 3500 to 16000...well you get the picture.

Intuitively people "get" this. That is the reality and that IS what the government wants to prevent so they mamby pampby and throw milk toast at the EXPENDABLE people.

This is not governance. It is playing the odds.
Hopefully the viral load of the nurse didn't infect anyone else. A virus is very small. It is much smaller than bacteria . If this woman had some viral load and sneezed I don't know if she could infect someone. I know the CDC said if one comes in contact with an infected Ebola person within three feet and that infected person has droplets coming out in a sneeze or cough they can infect that person within three feet.
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Old 10-15-2014, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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No comment as to why didn't the CDC send at least one official to Dallas to oversee and educate?
Texas said they did not need help. At the news conference everyone from Gov. Perry to the head of Texas health to the hospital boss said they knew what to do and had the situation under control. This is a major hospital in a major metro area. It is perfectly reasonable that CDC would be confident enough to defer to local authorities to handle it.
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Old 10-15-2014, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Seeds of doubt people. It's all in the back of your minds. Yes even you uber liberals have that little voice in the back of your head talking to you eventhough you will post nothing but your un-dying(?) support for this administration's leaders and it's failure of a POTUS.
I trend neutral on all leaders and partisanship.
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