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Old 01-30-2015, 07:46 PM
 
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No need, your kids are vaxxed up so they are 100℅ safe from my petri dishes.
No one has ever claimed a 100% effectiveness rate for vaccines. It's a numbers game, so people use things like math and statistics and whatnot to find a safe rate. Some decide to be parasites and enjoy the benefits of others being vaccinated. And if that number grows too high, the system collapses.

 
Old 01-30-2015, 07:46 PM
 
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If they have a personal belief against immunization and therefore don't immunize their kids? Fine, stay away from everyone else. Thoughts?
Why does everybody say, "Thoughts?" Sounds dumb.

Here's a thought.

If you're immunized, and I choose not to be, how does that affect you?
 
Old 01-30-2015, 07:48 PM
 
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If you're immunized, and I choose not to be, how does that affect you?
Math. No immunization is 100% effective. If enough people take a free ride and "choose not to be" immunized, the system collapses.
 
Old 01-30-2015, 07:49 PM
 
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Thanks for pointing this out to the Godvernment worshipers. Will they ever learn?
 
Old 01-30-2015, 07:51 PM
 
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Why does everybody say, "Thoughts?" Sounds dumb.

Here's a thought.

If you're immunized, and I choose not to be, how does that affect you?
Because you are basically irresponsible and you are one of those that get sick, infect others and then demand to be taken care of at not yours but everyone else's expense. Thoughts?
 
Old 01-30-2015, 07:57 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Something no one ever seems to answer is this - If your kid is vaccinated, why are you worried about any of this? Aren't they protected? If anyone who wants a vaccination for their kid can get one, wouldn't that mean anyone not vaccinating their kid already knows and accepts the risks?
It is an answer that you probably will not understand...Because we don't care just about ourselves and our families, but care about the well being of society as a whole.
 
Old 01-30-2015, 08:00 PM
 
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Yeah, see: There were a few more iron lungs that were caught in that photo. Believe it or not, but they weren't all in the same place. Crazy, I know. Polio in the US topped in the early 50s with 60,000 cases by year and about, oh, 3,000 deaths. In one year.

Also, no cohort studio has shown evidence of a vaccine/autism link.

Apart from that, great points.
60,000 cases a year. huh.

http://blog.autismspeaks.org/2010/10...ience-staff-2/
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In the last two decades, autism prevalence as reported in the scientific literature has increased by more than 600%. In 2009, the latest estimate of autism prevalence in the United States, as reported by the Centers for Disease Control was 1 in 110 children[1]. Since then, a number of studies have sought to investigate the cause(s) of this dramatic increase in autism prevalence over time. The most recent findings suggest that at least a portion of the increase in prevalence can be attributed to changes in diagnostic practices and increased awareness of autism over time, as well as other social factors such as advanced parental age. However, converging evidence also suggests that while these factors account for a portion of the increase, they cannot alone explain the dramatic rise in autism prevalence.


Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain folks, and do not believe your lying eyes. Correlation does not imply causation..
 
Old 01-30-2015, 08:03 PM
 
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Because you are basically irresponsible and you are one of those that get sick, infect others and then demand to be taken care of at not yours but everyone else's expense. Thoughts?
Same exact thing can be said for you demanding parents take the risk of their kid having an adverse reaction to vaccines so you can feel safe. Pretty selfish of you to demand that risk of others rather than just worrying about your own family.

Are you going to take on the financial and emotional burden of the parents who's kids have horrible life changing reactions to vaccines? Or are you going to shrug and say "well, it's good for most people so meh".
 
Old 01-30-2015, 08:04 PM
 
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It is an answer that you probably will not understand...Because we don't care just about ourselves and our families, but care about the well being of society as a whole.
Well, no, you don't actually care one bit for anyone's kid you forced to get vaccinated who had a life changing reaction to it. You care for "the general good", which removes any personal involvement in your demand that everyone believe as you do and get vaccinated.
 
Old 01-30-2015, 08:06 PM
 
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60,000 cases a year. huh.

http://blog.autismspeaks.org/2010/10...ience-staff-2/


Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain folks, and do not believe your lying eyes. Correlation does not imply causation..

What does a higher prevalence of autism have to do with the eradication of polio? Are you saying wiping out polio caused autism?
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