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And the laws are being changed. Got a problem with that?
Where? There was never any law saying that the pizza place couldn't discriminate. But in other states there are such laws. I haven't heard of any of them being repealed, in fact it seems that more states and cities are ADDING sexual orientation to the anti-discrimination laws.
At the risk of wasting my time again. I'm against laws that would force people to serve those they do not want to so you can't dismiss me by painting me in your box.
What sort of faith is this that is demanding? I consider myself to have faith but its voluntary, not demanding.
Maybe hers is different which is why I ask.
So you quite obviously believe that whites must have the right to order black people out of their businesses and restaurants.
What sort of faith is this that is demanding? I consider myself to have faith but its voluntary, not demanding.
All faith is voluntary. "Voluntary" doesn't render a sincere subscription to its ideal less demanding of its adherents. No wonder you people knew so little as to vote for Obama. Stop bothering others.
You must attend the Church of pknopp.
[The] right to be let alone - the most comprehensive of rights and the right most valued by civilized men.
-SCJ Louis Brandeis
So you quite obviously believe that whites must have the right to order black people out of their businesses and restaurants.
I think anyone should be able to do business or not do business with whoever they please.
Those people then have an equal right to protest those actions.
You want to try painting me into a corner also. One where you try and paint me saying its all well and fine. It often time is not but you have the power to address that. Don't cede that power to the government.
I believe the baker was wrong. I just don't want a law.
All faith is voluntary. "Voluntary" doesn't render a sincere subscription to its ideal less demanding of its adherents. No wonder you people knew so little as to vote for Obama. Stop bothering others.
Bite me. I never voted for Obama. Quit lashing out wildly and one day you might find yourself a better person.
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You must attend the Church of pknopp.
I certainly would if I could get away with it.
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[The] right to be let alone - the most comprehensive of rights and the right most valued by civilized men.
-SCJ Louis Brandeis
And yet I said I was against any law that forced people to do business with those they do not want to.
Where? There was never any law saying that the pizza place couldn't discriminate. But in other states there are such laws. I haven't heard of any of them being repealed, in fact it seems that more states and cities are ADDING sexual orientation to the anti-discrimination laws.
I believe the pizza parlor is covered by the "public accommodations" clause of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
I believe the pizza parlor is covered by the "public accommodations" clause of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
I should have said there is no law saying that they can not discriminate against gays. Sexual orientation is no covered under federal law, and Indiana does not cover sexual orientation in state laws.
Some so-called Christians don't hate the gay person because he or she is a Christian, but because they are. They justify their vile behavior by hiding behind their religion.
These people are (mis)using Christianity as a smokescreen for their hatred, but it is not the source.
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Do you really want Christianity to be a hate filled and exclusionary religion?
It's not, and anyone who claims otherwise is lying.
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That's the version some posters are clearing cheering for.
They pervert Christianity, they do not represent it truthfully & accurately.
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Thankfully, most (non-homophobic) Christians believe in the love for one's fellow man as taught by Jesus.
Just as God loves the sinner but hates the sin, so should we.
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(And NO, Jesus never talked about homosexuality in any of the Gospels so don't tell me he was all for this hatred.)
While the Bible does state that homosexuality is a sin (in both the Old and New Testaments), it does NOT condone hatred. Anyone who says that Jesus favored hatred is a liar. He preached forgiveness toward those who repent of their sin, turning from it and turning to Him.
You are correct! People can decide where they shop, but businesses ("public accommodations"), with some exceptions, can't discriminate in who they serve.
Well that is hypocritical and wrong. Just because it is "the law" doesn't make it right. Jim Crow was the law at one point too.
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