Unithed Health Care Regrets Involvement in ObamaCare Exchanges (health care system, regular, independent)

[le roi]

Eliminate profits and you make it impossible for many to ever even retire at all. Foolish plan.

You do realize that there are other profit-generating enterprises that retirees can invest in , besides Healthcare Insurance firms -- right?

[pknopp]

Originally Posted by InformedConsent

And that $60K is in stocks and other investments. Eliminate profits and you make it impossible for many to ever even retire at all. Foolish plan.

If you dispute the $24.7 Trillion retirement assets figure, provide evidence that it's false.

Heath care shouldn't be an investment.....a retirement vehicle.

[le roi]

Originally Posted by pknopp

And those of us who were against it for this very reason were called racists.

I'm not sure what you're saying, exactly. Someone called you a racist for supporting single-payer?

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by greywar

Fun fact. we already do here in the US.

If you smoke, or have a high BMI you are far less likely to receive many types of surgeries.

The NHS doesn't just deny smokers and the obese surgery. They deny them medical treatment, as well.

"...four in five NHS areas are rationing surgery and other treatments for patients with a high body mass index, while almost two in three are refusing to treat smokers."

Most NHS areas refuse surgery for obese patients - Telegraph

The poor smoke disproportionately and have higher obesity rates. So, guess what would happen... Think that will go over well in the U.S.?

[pknopp]

Originally Posted by le roi

I'm not sure what you're saying, exactly. Someone called you a racist for supporting single-payer?

No, for arguing against Obamacare.

[greywar]

Originally Posted by InformedConsent

From the Board of Governers of the Federal Reserve System... in 2012 the total was $23.7 Trillion.

Retirement Question 4 | EBRI

Excellent...so... 2012-2014 it went from....23.7 trillion to....24.7 trillion. The 23.7 is the ICI link, the second is your link, the dates are the dates indicated in them.

meanwhile the stock market went from 13,000 to...18,000

Hmmmm....Anything look interesting to you? You know like the difference between a 4% increase, and a 27% increase?

[le roi]

Originally Posted by pknopp

No, for arguing against Obamacare.

So what kind of system were you arguing for?

And who, exactly, called you a racist?

[Dane_in_LA]

Originally Posted by pknopp

It's too bad no one thought of this back in 09.

They did. The 80/20 rule was put in effect and the porcine squeals of outrage were music to my ears.

[le roi]

Originally Posted by greywar

Excellent...so... 2012-2014 it went from....23.7 trillion to....24.7 trillion. The 23.7 is the ICI link, the second is your link, the dates are the dates indicated in them.

meanwhile the stock market went from 13,000 to...18,000

Hmmmm....Anything look interesting to you? You know like the difference between a 4% increase, and a 27% increase?

$23 trillion is "investment assets" which include bonds as well as stocks.

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by le roi

You do realize that there are other profit-generating enterprises that retirees can invest in , besides Healthcare Insurance firms -- right?

Sure, but you've read the threads on this forum. Lefties foolishly think there should be no corporate profits at all.

Not sure why you're all complaining about health insurance companies' meager less than 4% profit margin.

Maybe this will open your eyes a little...

The 15 Industries That Are Raking In the Most Profit