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Well this is what happens when gun laws are done at the state level and not the federal level. As the saying goes, don't like it, then move to a different state. I am sure there are states out there that are more in line with your views on guns.
No, this is what happens when you have politician who apoint judges who do NOT enforce the Constitution.
Remember back when the people of Ca. voted to ban same sex marriages then the gays sued and the fed courts said the law was against the Constitution.
Why doesn't the fed courts defend the 2nd Amendment, "...shall NOT be infringed"
You get what you vote for, and "elections have consequences".
Like all politicians they are statists and seek control... they want everyone to be like they are. Basically no amount of facts and logic will convince them guns are good... they are brainwashed by popular culture and having never fired one or taken firearms training courses they don't see the potential benefits to having them, how you can stop crime before it escalates. When you have "gun free zones" only the criminals have guns.
Really it's the gun issue that keeps many moderates from voting democrat... many like myself are bleeding heart socialists on some issues like universal health care, environmental laws, etc. while we're social libertarian on other issues... gun rights and legalizing marijuana/ending the war on drugs, etc.
Ranting about guns only assures that us quazi-socalist/libertarians will never vote democrat. You want too much control over people's personal lives.. turning everything into a "nanny state" to protect everyone from themselves and each other... just like republicans but at least they let us keep the guns.
"they want everyone to be like they are."
I disagree. They want the people to be the way they WANT them to be and EXEMPT themselves.
I seriously don't understand the logic that Dems want to take your Guns away. The NRA said President Obama would take your Guns away when he was elected in 2008 and we still have 300 Million + Guns in the US after nearly 8 years of his Presidency.
I guess he failed in that endeavour to remove Guns from the American populace.
Along with 8 mass shootings after he was elected using Assault Weapons like AR-15's that nobody needs to own.
Please explain what is the purpose of a "Assault Weapon" which was banned for a decade when Bill Clinton was President and Dubya let that ban expire??
How many time does your opinions have to be proven wrong? Millions? Because thousands haven't seemed to work.
"I seriously don't understand the logic that Dems want to take your Guns away."
"If I could’ve gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them — Mr. and Mrs. America turn ’em all in — I would have done it."
Obama tried to re institute bill clinton's failed co-called "Assault Weapons " ban" which did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
"using Assault Weapons like AR-15's that nobody needs to own."
For the millionth time, the AR-15 is NOT AN ASSAULT WEAPON.
BEING YOU DO NOT KNOW THAT, EXPLAIN why YOU THINK "NOBODY NEEDS TO OWN" ONE.
What, with your expertise on guns, is your reasoning?
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i dont get hard by squeezing a trigger like many on the right do.
at the same time im not scared of guns like many on the left are.
my opinion is the majority, simple as that.
the simple solution is to not let anyone buy a gun until they pass the 3 day clearance. right now you can get a gun, even if the clearance is still pending.
that's how that white dylann roof was able to get that gun which he used to kill those church members, and is what they are being sued over now.
a future solution is nano technology. your biometrics control whether you can pull the trigger or not. if the gun is not registered to you, it wont fire. that will be the future maybe 20-30 years from now.
"i dont get hard by squeezing a trigger like many on the right do.'
So, you go watch people on the right "get hard".
I certainly HOPE you don't think ANYONE is taking you serious.
"the simple solution is to not let anyone buy a gun until they pass the 3 day clearance. right now you can get a gun, even if the clearance is still pending.""
A woman was KILLED by her ex-husband while waiting her "3 days" .
She wanted to buy a gun for protection against him AFTER he repeatedly showed up at her house and beat her even though she had a restraining order against him.
The police did NOTHING to ensure he stayed away from her.
"a future solution is nano technology. your biometrics control whether you can pull the trigger or not. if the gun is not registered to you,"
So, if 2 or 3 bad guys break into your house and you are NOT home, what is your wife/husband, teenagers supposed to do?
Why is it that people like you who come up with these asinine ideas can't think beyond your own prejudices?
People like you ARE the reason we have these asinine laws that do NOTHING.
"that's how that white dylann roof was able to get that gun"
When we can come up with a way to PREVENT people from going CRAZY, we will stop the killings. NOT BEFORE.
Nope because slavery is regulated at the federal level just like gun laws should be. I thought I was clear in my post, but clearly you missed that.
No, that isn't what I said at all. Some things should be done at state level, other things shouldn't. Gun laws should be at the federal level.
I am sure you only support states rights when you agree with what a state is doing. If you support states rights, then you should be cool with what the state of California wants to do with its own state.
So you're saying that if someone doesn't like the gun laws, there will be no other state or them to move to where laws are more to their liking? You're right up there on the totalitarian bandwagon, right?
I'll bet anyone who ever registered anything in Kalifornia is now kicking themselves in the ass.
"Cold, dead hands" is seeming more and more relevant than ever.
FOOLISH PEOPLE WILL DO ANYTHING THAT MAKES THEM FEEL SAFE! Even things that place them in greater danger. Removing guns from law abiding citizens just like "Building the Great Wall of Mexico" are a couple of examples.
The attitude of the gun grabbers is not surprising as these people have been taught all their school lives that fighting back is not tolerated and that the "authorities" will protect them. Although my school experience happened over 60 years ago I was taught the same. Until about 9th grade I followed the rules. Then I was beaten by some oversize bully and after I reported the assault the Vice principal told me to ignore the bully because he was a "difficult child from a broken family". As I had changed from a small kid to my adult physique the next time the kid tried to hit me I fought back. He wound up in a hospital and I got detention. I had become that "difficult child".
The "never fight back" training is why many folks think removing guns will reduce violence. That will not as the bullies will now have a undefended population to terrorize. I believe it would be devastating to all the well trained and peaceful people if they learned that they are responsible for their own safety. That would send most of them into therapy.
As I said in my last post, what THEY want is to BE SAFE without having to do anything. They want to remain PROTECTED CHILDREN with adult privileges.
To take responsibility for protecting themselves and/or their families is literally unthinkable. When they are told that they are responsible for protecting themselves they cannot accept it. They are so threatened and frightened of the concept that they want to disarm everybody but their protecting authorities so they an believe they are safe.
OK that is delusional but eliminating delusion is not something that confiscating firearms can provide.
I disagree. They want the people to be the way they WANT them to be and EXEMPT themselves.
Haha good point... the rich with their armed security and private jets telling us we don't need our guns and need to cut down on our energy usage... the ole hypocrite "do as I say, not as I do" argument... well everyone does that... regardless of political affiliation.. it's a part of being a narcissistic and we all have some narcissism in us.
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