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Old 08-18-2016, 07:57 AM
 
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1,792 retail stores.

Comes out to about $11k per store.
1,400 already have single bathrooms. The $20 million is for 400 stores.
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Old 08-18-2016, 08:00 AM
 
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and that person was arrested, right?

how do you stop people from committing a crime before they do it?

with many transgenders it's impossible to tell they aren't the sex they are dressing as. Should the dressing room attendant grab the crotches of every customer before letting them in?
He was arrested, but not before the woman was victimized. In the other link posted, the perp was not arrested and a child was victimized.

The transgender arrested in my link was obviously a man. No employee would have mistaken him for a woman.
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Old 08-18-2016, 08:02 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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What does Target plan to do with their dressing room policy? They let men use the women's dressing room. That is even worse, imho.
Most retail stores maintain private dressing rooms with doors or curtains.

I have no recollection of any US retailer putting everyone in a common coral to try on clothes.
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Old 08-18-2016, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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While I think it's a waste of money, I hope those who are overly concerned about the genitalia of the person in the stall next to them will avail themselves to the single sex restroom. It's also helpful for families with small children.
Especially helpful for parents with children.
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Old 08-18-2016, 08:03 AM
 
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You might be, many more aren't. People get tired of being looked down on when they don't automatically agree with the incessant demands from aggrieved interest groups. I suspect Target is in more trouble than they're letting on.
They've already announced that forecasts show their holiday sales will be flat at best, and most likely declined this year. Creating an unnecessary problem and then having to spend millions to try to fix it while your sales are declining is a really dumb business move.
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Old 08-18-2016, 08:03 AM
 
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He was arrested, but not before the woman was victimized. In the other link posted, the perp was not arrested and a child was victimized.

The transgender arrested in my link was obviously a man. No employee would have mistaken him for a woman.
look I'm not making excuses for this filth. it's obvious that some people are SICK in the head.

he committed crime and it was an isolated incident. There are far worse things that happen every day and don't even make the news.

I'm not going to hate all tranny's or Target because of 1 criminal's actions.
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Old 08-18-2016, 08:09 AM
 
Location: Austin
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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/15/us...rism.html?_r=0

The authorities in Idaho charged a transgender woman this week with secretly taking pictures of an 18-year-old woman changing in a Target fitting room.

The national retail chain drew praise from transgender advocates and condemnation from conservative groups when it announced in April that it would allow customers to use the restroom or fitting room corresponding to their gender identity.


Target made their choice. Consumers can make their choice. I have chosen not to shop at Target since July.
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Old 08-18-2016, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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A man was arrested for videoing women as they changed in the dressing room.

Transgender person arrested after taking photos of others in changing room | Latest News - Home
Unlike some other fake news reports this one was true.

Transgender Woman Arrested for Taking Pictures in Target Changing Room : snopes.com

A woman noticed that someone in the private store next to her reached over a wall with a cellphone to take a picture.

As Snopes noted, nothing has ever prevented any man from donning a wig and dress as this guy did, from entering a Woman's dressing room.

Heck, nothing has ever prevented a woman from attempting to reach over a partition with a cellphone.
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Old 08-18-2016, 08:21 AM
 
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What stopped men from dressing up as women and going into women's restrooms before? It's not like they checked for ID at the door.
Why would a man have to dress as a woman?

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conservative white males think someone like laverne cox should be going into male restrooms.

who if i didnt know was a man id be saying she's smoking hot.
Many of us actually don't care about the transgenders coming into the restrooms. The transgenders are just wanting to go use the restroom. If I were to guess, transgender people probably have a much lower sexual crime rate than "regular" people.

My problem would be with any law penalizing a business or a private person from questioning a suspicious person entering or loitering around a bathroom. This was the problem with Houston's HERO ordinance. With HERO, if a business employee saw a man, dressed as a man, enter or loiter in front of that business's women's restroom, and that employee asked why he was there, that man could contact the COH and claim he felt he identified as a woman at that moment. The city would investigate that business for harassment and could impose penalties. This is where I object.

The danger is not from transgenders. The danger comes from men dressed as men who would be protected from being questioned as to why they are going into or loitering outside the women's restrooms or changing rooms. Other than the Houston ordinance (which was defeated), I'm not sure if any other law has this effect.

IMHO, it's good that Target is putting in these single stalls since it helps lots of different people.
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Old 08-18-2016, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Men have been " peeping" since the beginning of time. Stuff like this might have been buried in the back of a local paper. The 24/7 for profit news cycle, Internet and Social Media have made us more aware of these rare instances, creating a perception it's common place.

Kids routinely climb on toilet seats and peep / surprise each other.

Then there's the occasional story of a male landlord / janitor who installs hidden cameras in apartments.
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