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what's stopping predators from doing what they do anywhere?
since when do criminals follow the law?
My God. This question has been answered numerous times. What's stopping people now is that women at least are able to report someone to store security, a manager, or police. Criminals at least gauge their opportunity for getting away with something. By your logic, we should not have any regulations or laws about anything anywhere because criminals don't follow the law.
The disregard and double standard for women and girls safety is shocking. Why are only transwomen's concerns about safety in the male bathroom considered valid but not cis women's concerns about OUR safety?
My God. This question has been answered numerous times. What's stopping people now is that women at least are able to report someone to store security, a manager, or police. Criminals at least gauge their opportunity for getting away with something. By your logic, we should not have any regulations or laws about anything anywhere because criminals don't follow the law.
The disregard and double standard for women and girls safety is shocking. Why are only transwomen's concerns about safety in the male bathroom considered valid but not cis women's concerns about OUR safety?
MY GOD is right.
this is why people point and laugh.
2 isolated incidents perpetrated by sickos and every single trans is a predator.
The harm to a person who believes they are for example, a woman when their physical attributes are that of a man is harmed in what manner when they use tpilet facilities designed and purposed to accommodate humans of similar physical attributes?
A transwoman my sister worked with was forced to use the men's room at work. Three men waited until she came out of the stall, and nearly beat her to death. Every time I walk into a public bathroom, I walk in knowing I could be beaten or murdered, unless I use a single stall bathroom, and it could happen even then. I could be beaten or murdered partly because of the paranoia that's been created over this issue.
Some people aren't happy unless they have something to have a cow about.
Quite true. Most places (schools and larger businesses) already had a "family" or "disabled" single stall restroom. Seems that wasn't good enough. The dudes in dresses whined that that was "discrimination" and that they must be allowed to use the women's (that would be people with vaginas for you confused people) bathrooms.
A few questions for those in support of allowing persons with male physical attributes to use facilities designed fir women.
If there is a harm of of a transgender (not physically converted) to use a women's restroom it can't be a physical harm correct? It would be a harm to the mind or something along those lines.
Then why don't you embrace the concerns or perceived harm a woman can experience when what appears to be a male, enters and uses facilities for women or the harm experienced by a Father when his teenage daughter walks into a restroom and a man walks in right after her?
Isn't the concern of anyone else when it comes to people with male physical attributes using womens restrooms as valid as yours? If there is harm, isn't the harm to them as important as your perceived harm is to you.
How do you reconcile that, by lowering the importance of their concern about a physical harm and raising the importance of the harm to you which no one else would ever know about; none was intended and no one else can quantify it?
In my example of the Father, would bot the Father be correct and within his right as a parent to then also enter the restroom to observe what appeared to be a man going in after his daughter?
Explain then, if a Father followed you in, you being a transgender but not physically converted, to scrutinize your behavior, you wouldn't be concerned or bothered by that but would be so cincerned or bothered by going into the male restroom where no one would even notice you?
Something doesn't add up and it sure doesn't make sense that you would subject yourself to the greater scrutiny just so you could enter through a door maked "women".
you mean like this over the top illogical statement that I was replying to?
I figured one over the top statement deserved another.
there is no epidemic of trans people attacking others. why don't you focus on some actual problems get real
Oh please. Do tell us all the problem with a non-physically converted transgender person using the restroom designated for other human beings with the same physical attributes (like a penis).
Where is the epidemic of harm being caused to transgenders using toilet facilities marked for the physical attributes they have.???
Seems like cherry picking who is harmed is the way to go.
Or should we all just behave as wild animals and be done with it?
2 isolated incidents perpetrated by sickos and every single trans is a predator.
at least you don't generalize
What a great non answer from you. You don't have a real answer, which is why you keep repeating the lie that we believe every trans is a predator. How many times do we have to say it is not about actual trans people but NON-TRANS PREDATORS WHO WOULD ABUSE THIS LAW. Do you understand that laws must be written correctly and precisely? There is no way to verify and substantiate how someone identifies when we're dealing with people entering bathrooms.
Yes, criminals gauging opportunity is real. Duh. This is why common sense (as well as law enforcement and reality) tells us our stuff is more likely to get stolen from our cars if it's sitting on the seat and visible, that you're more likely to be mugged in a poorly lighted area with fewer foot traffic than a crowded place with many witnesses, etc. etc. Sorry you've never heard of this on your planet.
What two isolated incidents are you referring to? Are you saying only two women in the history of crime stats have ever been the victims of attempted harassment/assault in bathroom facilities? No YOU are generalizing with your silly accusation that everyone who wants sex segregated bathrooms desires gays (how did they get involved again?) and trans people to kill themselves, and your notion that if we don't let anatomical men into women's bathrooms they're subject to assault and murder. And please explain to me me how people point and laugh at this notion when the majority of the world has sex segregated locker rooms and bathrooms???
Again, your hated of women and dismissal of violence against women is shocking and disgusting. Just FYI, I have first hand experience of this; I have not been brainwashed by the media or trans-hating bigots that some men, unfortunately, commit crimes against women.
I suppose this video is compiled by people that just hate trans people and want them to commit suicide:
A transwoman my sister worked with was forced to use the men's room at work. Three men waited until she came out of the stall, and nearly beat her to death. Every time I walk into a public bathroom, I walk in knowing I could be beaten or murdered, unless I use a single stall bathroom, and it could happen even then. I could be beaten or murdered partly because of the paranoia that's been created over this issue.
Good reason to be pro 2nd Amendment. You don't stand a chance against a mob unarmed, but you have the chance to defend yourself when a gun helps even the odds.
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