How does requiring proper ID prevent minorities from voting...... (compare, 2014, laws)
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You should READ your OWN link before making yourself look foolish.
From YOUR site":
"North Carolina "No-Fee ID Card Program
After January 1, 2014, you will be able to apply for a free NC identification card to be used for voting. To qualify, you will need to:
Prove your age and identity.
Prove your NC residency.
Be registered to vote in North Carolina.
Not have a valid driver license.
This form of NC ID card will be valid for voting and for identification purposes only. You will apply using the same documents (proof of name, birth date, Social Security, and residency) as listed above."
"MD Identification Card Fees
The fees for new, renewed or duplicate Maryland ID cards vary.
Older than 65 years old: ID Card is free.
Disabled: ID Card is free.
I didn't bother to look up any others but, I would NOT be surprised to find more if did.
How does that CROW taste?
Birth certificates still cost money, I've never heard of a free one.
I find it amazing how you people will go through a number of contortions, gyrations and twists to defend and excuse those that are so lazy and stupid they are incapable of having an ID.
I challenge the media to present a dozen such people---they don't exist.
If they are that detached from society, I hope they don't vote for the sake of the country!
Sometimes it's as simple as $$$ and lazy and stupid have nothing to do with it. Cost me $63 to renew mine and I went without it for a year until I could fork over the money.
No everyone Gerrymanders, they need to have truly independent commissions that review redistricting for fairness rather than political hacks. There is Gerrymandering and then there is Gerrymandering, note the original 9 states covered by the VRA section 5 in addition to some counties in NY, CA and just about the entire state of NC. They are probably not all republican districts but sure looks like they have a large majority, I haven't heard of a democratic controlled state losing a lawsuit,
Alabama and Texas couldn't wait to redraw them maps, the ink wasn't even dry on the supreme court decision removing section 5. Both lost in court decisions.
Medicare does not just go to the poor, It goes to anyone over 65 and for some people with limited conditions. You sign up for Medicare like any other insurance but the ID you need to get treatment does not need to be valid. An expired license or State ID like my one of my relatives had was enough. You may have needed an ID to sign up for SS ten years ago but it can arrive via direct deposit or via pre-paid cards. The ID that you used to sign up for SS may have expired.
"but the ID you need to get treatment does not need to be valid."
Depends on the STATE.
most of these discussion are about the "poor".
In today's world many have either Medicare or Medicade.
If you have go to the doctor you have been going to for YEARS and hae a problem he cannot treat, you will be referred to a "specialist"
If you have NOT been to that specialist before, there is good chance you have NOT, you will need a SALID PHOTO ID.
The number of people who fall into the "group" that might have a difficulty in getting a valid Photo ID, IMO, is so SMALL it isn't worth all this discussion.
Yes a large majority of residents do have photo ID's so? The point is that a decent segment of poor minorities do not and this was specifically done to make it difficult for them to vote. I'm am glad for the new found concern as to how these people get social security, prescriptions and survive in general but the fact remains that they exist. It is a big deal for some by the way otherwise they would never have passed the law.
"The point is that a decent segment of poor minorities do not and this was specifically done to make it difficult for them to vote."
What a bunch of racist B.S.
What makes a "poor minority" any different then a poor white or any race for that matter?
This question has been asked NUMEROUS times in all these forums and it is NEVER answered.
Ok, explain to me how one does vote multiple times. Where I live if you go back into the same polling place you risk being spotted by poll workers. You also would need to know the name of the person you are trying to vote for and what percent they are in.
"Ok, explain to me how one does vote multiple times."
I would NOT claim "multiple" time but certainly 2 times.
I know people who did NOT get their old states drivers license taken by the DMV when they moved to another state and got a NEW license in that new state.
Therefore they have 2 driver's licenses.
The CAN vote in both state if they wish.
Many want a college student ID to be a valid ID for voting.
A school ID does NOT have ANYTHING to do with where you are "resident".
You can have a driver's license from your registration home state and vote there AND if college ID is taken as valid WITHOUT changing your "residence" in that state, and you go to school "out of state" you could vote AGAIN in the schools state.
Let's go through this again. She did have a id. It had expired. It is common for people who are elderly and need assistance getting to the DMV or what ever place issues ids to have an expired one.
"It is common for people who are elderly and need assistance getting to the DMV or what ever place issues ids to have an expired one."
This a "lame" excuse , IMO and used OFTEN.
How does this person get her groceries?
How does she get to the doctors?
"and need assistance getting to the DMV"
Is she in assisted living quarters?
if so MANY provide "assistance " to the voting places.
Sounds like the state wants its $$$ and/or else you lose your identity when your ID expires.
"Sounds like"
You should NOT make assumption.
Sounds like you DON'T know what you are whining about, AGAIN.
"Sometimes it's as simple as $$$ and lazy and stupid have nothing to do with it. Cost me $63 to renew mine and I went without it for a year until I could fork over the money." You should NOT have LOST your original. Sounds "lazy and stupid" to me.
You live in liberal la-la land and complain about how your liberal politician control things, impose fees, taxes, etc., and yet, you STILL voter them time after time.
Republicans are just mad because minorities vote democratic. So they need to make voting more difficult for them. You guys wonder why it's so hard for some to get id's. Some of them have never needed it. When you live in small towns where everyone knows each other no one asks for id. So now you want them to present their birth certificate. Many don't even have it. Instead of suppressing voters, why not make it a priority to get their votes.
As has been said before, apply the SAME laws, rules restrictions etc, to the 2nd amendment as you WANT for the 1st amendment.
Are you OK with that?
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