How does requiring proper ID prevent minorities from voting...... (Michigan, Arizona, Oregon)

[chirack]

Originally Posted by FatBob96

If you don't require ID to vote then how can you expect to have any realistic and accurate data on how much voter fraud actually occurs?


How much fraud is acceptable to you?

Because the most effective type of voting fraud does not require an ID at all. Hint it does not even require a voter.

[Sharks With Lasers]

I'm pretty sure that most minorities have the proper IDs for voting. I don't think that has really been the discussion.

I think the discussion has always been about whether making it harder for those who do not have the "proper IDs" for voting is politically motivated. I think we all know the answer to that.

[mtl1]

Originally Posted by Sharks With Lasers

I'm pretty sure that most minorities have the proper IDs for voting. I don't think that has really been the discussion.

I think the discussion has always been about whether making it harder for those who do not have the "proper IDs" for voting is politically motivated. I think we all know the answer to that.

And we know making it easier for those without proper ID to vote is politically motivated too. If those voting without ID were predominately Republican voters, you can bet the "no ID voting" advocates would be reversing their position.

[The Villages Guy]

Originally Posted by middle-aged mom

Agreed on ID.

Why cut off early voting?

Why not allow same day registration?

I have always had an issue with early voting. Reason being is that if it is too far ahead, votes could be cast before all relevant information is available. Sometimes info comes to light which could change people's minds. I would want to limit how far ahead of time people could vote or have the results delayed some, so mail in votes could be counted.

[Goodnight]

Originally Posted by InformedConsent

Exactly, because absentee ballots are signature matched. I absentee ballot because I have homes in multiple states, but vote in only one.

If you vote in person the signature also needs to match, why is it acceptable for absentee ballots but not for voting in a poll booth.

[Goodnight]

Originally Posted by Quick Enough

"The point is that a decent segment of poor minorities do not and this was specifically done to make it difficult for them to vote."

What a bunch of racist B.S.

What makes a "poor minority" any different then a poor white or any race for that matter?

This question has been asked NUMEROUS times in all these forums and it is NEVER answered.

Blacks and Hispanics make up the largest minority that they were addressing in the legislation passed in NC and other states that found the need for these changes.

[Goodnight]

Originally Posted by FatBob96

If you don't require ID to vote then how can you expect to have any realistic and accurate data on how much voter fraud actually occurs?


How much fraud is acceptable to you?

That is backwards, prove the fraud then require the ID's as a solution not the other way around.


Besides they didn't even address absentee ballots, why?

[Speleothem]

I don't know how anyone functions in society without identification.

[irspow]

The same holds true for other "rights". No identification should be required to purchase a firearm either. We don't want to suppress anyone's natural right to self defense.

[freemkt]

Originally Posted by PedroMartinez

Everyone knows the "people don't have IDs" excuse is completely bogus.

Additionally, even in states with voter ID laws, all the old and disabled people they talk about can still vote without an ID.. They request a ballot by mail and then send it in. It has postage on it. They don't have to leave your home.

In what states do absentee ballots have postage on it? Not anywhere I have lived.