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Old 01-21-2017, 09:04 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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I absolutely could not believe the numbers of marchers all across the world. The march in Chicago grew so big that they had to shut it down, it was over 150,000 people. The aerial shots of marchers clogging up roads and bridges was amazing, the turnout was phenomenal.

Trump is bringing people together all across the world. It's easy to dislike this man on so many levels, and only one day into his Presidency he has whined about his unfair treatment by the press. My only question is how long will it take for thinking people who supported him to finally realize the Emperor has no clothes?

Eventually his supporters who are thinking people (a minority, for sure) will have to make the decision to abandon a sinking ship. Will it be 6 months, a year? Two years? I'm gonna sit back and enjoy the show.

 
Old 01-21-2017, 09:06 PM
 
Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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No non-citizen has a right to enter this country. That is not a right.
The ACA and preventive care on the government dime are not rights.
I don't know what "pray the gay away" is, but as far as I know there is no right to be free from it.
Trump cannot "overturn" same-sex marriage. The Supreme Court could overturn Obergefell, but that is unlikely to happen. The only reason it could happen, though, is because Obergefell is based on bullcrap.
What do you mean "no non-citizen can enter this country"? What are you talking about?
 
Old 01-21-2017, 09:06 PM
 
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Oh yeah? How do you define "mainstream America"?

Working, religious to some degree, believes in the Rule of Law at all times, in maintaining an orderly society, dislikes intensely Socialism and Communism having chosen to live in a Free Market capitalist society. Wants government to stay out of the way and allow our Free Market to thrive.
 
Old 01-21-2017, 09:10 PM
 
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Eventually his supporters who are thinking people (a minority, for sure) will have to make the decision to abandon a sinking ship. Will it be 6 months, a year? Two years? I'm gonna sit back and enjoy the show.
So people who voted for Trump will decide that they don't like Trump because......some fools who they probably don't like to begin with joined a useless protest against Trump? I don't get it.

Did Tea Party rallies make you abandon Obama's "sinking ship?"
 
Old 01-21-2017, 09:10 PM
 
Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Democrats are for strong public schools? You jest. The most wretched school districts in the country are in cities that are 100% Democrat owned-and-operated.

Freedom to practice religion? Like, say, not baking a cake for a gay wedding because it violates your religion? You mean that kind of freedom to practice your religion?
Which school districts are you referring to? If you're going to say something like that, be specific and back you claims up with your source(s).
 
Old 01-21-2017, 09:11 PM
 
Location: DFW
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No. Not true. Just the opposite. They moved more and more into the middle and lost their heart and soul. The democratic party has not gotten more radical. Not at all. You don't know your history. Hillary Clinton was not a far to the left democrat. Neither was Obama. Bernie ... yeah. Far to the left and a democrat in name only so that he could have a chance at winning the democratic nomination. And he could have won against trump.
Another problem D's have today is leadership. They need to clean house on the people like Pulosi, Watters, Bernie and get fresh blood into management.

They are pretty much leaderless today. Good argument for Term Limits here.
 
Old 01-21-2017, 09:13 PM
 
Location: here
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No non-citizen has a right to enter this country. That is not a right.
The ACA and preventive care on the government dime are not rights.
I don't know what "pray the gay away" is, but as far as I know there is no right to be free from it.
Trump cannot "overturn" same-sex marriage. The Supreme Court could overturn Obergefell, but that is unlikely to happen. The only reason it could happen, though, is because Obergefell is based on bullcrap.
He didn't say "non--citizen.' He said he wanted to stop Muslims from entering the country.

We could argue all day long about whether health care is a right. The fact is, that everyone benefits from a healthy community, and no one should go broke because they get sick. Every other developed nation in the world has figured this out. Another fact, access to birth control prevents abortions. The righties should be handing it out on the street corners.

Let me spell it out for you... Mike Pence, instead of accepting LGBTQ persons as they are, and allowing them to marry who they want (you know... equal rights), he thinks he can counsel a gay person into being straight.

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Democrats are for strong public schools? You jest. The most wretched school districts in the country are in cities that are 100% Democrat owned-and-operated.

Freedom to practice religion? Like, say, not baking a cake for a gay wedding because it violates your religion? You mean that kind of freedom to practice your religion?
Both sides needs some help on that. That's one area where Obama was a disappointment.

Baking a "gay wedding cake" is not preventing anyone from practicing their religion. I was more talking about Trump saying "we need to watch the Mosques." and trying to prevent an entire religion from entering the country.

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I dont believe in people having the right practice any religion and cult belief if that endangers our nation with terrorist attacks that kill and maim, and what does islam and these religions say about equal rights for LGBTQ (i.e. same sex marriage) or abortion and womens rights?

What in the hell does all these groups that make up the Democrat party really have in common with each other?

I believe in

affordable health care for my fellow americans,

access preventive health care for women ( and despite your hateful Feminist and selfish tirade, good health care for men and children as well )

good schools

What do these have to do with a race based, feminist based, open border based ,multicultural hate white men ideology like the democrat party has espoused?
I don't have to hate white men to think that every other person in the country deserves to be treated equally to rich white men. That's what it comes down to. Black Lives matter means they mater, same as yours. Feminism means equal right to men. If you disagree with equality, then there is no point in conversing about this.

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No one is taking away "reproductive rights", you still have the right to reproduce. The ACA is a mess that is making deductibles unaffordable for all people, including women. Planned parenthood is a private organization that has no right to receive public funds. There are plenty to public health clinics where people can get preventive care.
There are not plenty of clinics. In some places, PP was the only clinic. Thanks to the repubs, many have shut down.

I'm going to bed. I walked a long way today, and I'm tired.
 
Old 01-21-2017, 09:14 PM
 
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Do you support equal pay for equal work? Just wondering?
Do you believe experience and how long someone is in the position, trumps someone who hasn't been at the job long enough? I seriously, don't know anyone that complains about this. Plus, what about those jobs were physical labor is involved and because someone can't do the heavy work should they get the same pay as others?


Plus, most jobs have a pay scale as one has more experience and more training.
 
Old 01-21-2017, 09:14 PM
 
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I absolutely could not believe the numbers of marchers all across the world. The march in Chicago grew so big that they had to shut it down, it was over 150,000 people. The aerial shots of marchers clogging up roads and bridges was amazing, the turnout was phenomenal.

Trump is bringing people together all across the world. It's easy to dislike this man on so many levels, and only one day into his Presidency he has whined about his unfair treatment by the press. My only question is how long will it take for thinking people who supported him to finally realize the Emperor has no clothes?

Eventually his supporters who are thinking people (a minority, for sure) will have to make the decision to abandon a sinking ship. Will it be 6 months, a year? Two years? I'm gonna sit back and enjoy the show.
Across the world? Where? Europe is electing far right nationalist anti eu / anti open and porous border/ governments all over. Chicago is a blue city that has gone from one of the great cities of the world to a city that is rapidly losing population, massive pension and crime problems, etc

Why are blue city marches in places that hate trump surprising? These cities don't influence much election wise on a national scale.
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Old 01-21-2017, 09:14 PM
 
Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Sure, I guess. But no one has made a real case that people aren't being paid the same for equal work.

And regardless, that isn't a right.
Here ... you can choose your own web-site(s) to explore this issue.

https://www.google.com/#q=gender+pay+gap+facts
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