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Because humans have rights, hence the term human rights.
If a person is in an accident and on life support and has no living will or DNR of any type, can the spouse waltz in and tell the doctor to pull the plug?
Nope. It has to go through the courts because of that person's rights.
You are saying is it human not does it have human rights. There is a difference.
And yes.
The consensus is that a fetus is viable at 28 weeks. My grandson was living/breathing/functioning outside of the womb, so yes he was a viable human being at that point.
In Rome (the nation, not the city) it was acceptable and not uncommon to throw out unwanted newborn babies. That is a good illustration of the arbitrariness of our definitions of life and viability. The only thing that matters is what the law says. So whatever the law decides I am fine with. In the final analysis it is law that defines morality.
Right, so slavery is moral because it was legal at some point?
This. And an unwanted pregnancy can feel exactly like a cancer.
Doesn't matter what "a pregnancy can feel like" It has to do with a human being. My boss can feel like a cancer, so I guess your logic means I should be able to kill him.
There is no argument if you say:
A pro-choice law allows you to be pro-choice or pro-life depending on your views.
A pro-life law does not allow anyone to be pro-choice regardless of their views.
Pro-life law, excludes a group of people and limits freedom, pro-choice does not period. The correct way to implement is pro-choice law. /EndofDiscussion
Wrong, pro-life allows you to choose whether you want to parent the child you created or give it over for adoption. Pregnancy limits the freedom of the mother for 9 months or less. Abortion limits the freedom of the unborn child forever.
What major biological change happened to you between the day before your delivery and the day of your delivery?
Are preemies not humans until they get to the magical day they should have been born?
Of course, I think it's weird that you feel a government decides who is a human.
We saw how well that worked out for slaves in the US and Jews in Germany.
I'm no expert on this, but I know I am pro-choice while not liking the idea of abortions. I just don't feel it's my place to dictate to a woman what she should do with her body. However, you pose an interesting question. I'd say the moment that makes a fetus a baby is the cutting of the umbilical cord. A preterm (or full term for that matter) baby isn't forced to breath on it's own until that cord is cut. It's never experienced hunger until then either.
Right, so slavery is moral because it was legal at some point?
Societal mores are those values that dictate what is considered moral. They are subject to change over time. Much of the debates going on about LGBT rights are a contemporary example of such change.
Again, law has in the past stated many things. If your point is to argue law, then you have no grounds to object against law when it does not suit your fancy. That is, if law says women can be raped legally, who are you to argue with the law? Right? After all, many cultures have laws that allow the subjugation, rape, and mistreatment of women, are they also right because it is their law? If not, are you not then ethnocentric?
The question posed in the OP was How do you respond to this pro-life argument? The first answer is that in Roe v. Wade, abortion is legal, within the limits set in Roe. That's actually a sufficient answer - if you want to change cases, then the first thing to do is overturn Roe v. Wade.
Second, the law is not a question of your fancy - or @ least, it isn't so in the West, nor in the US specifically. I don't know that the Koran - if that's what you're referring to - allows the rape of women in general. & whether or not many cultures have laws that allow that, we don't live in many cultures, we live - or @ least I do - in the US.
Yah, the law in the US has gone astray in the past, & may yet again. @ that point, we'll all have to join in & lobby to change the law, to conform to what is right & just. That's part of the thrill of living in a representative republic.
& in the US, one is always entitled to self-defense.
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I refute it thus! (kicks pebble)
