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Old 04-06-2017, 02:10 AM
 
Location: Toronto
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Old 04-06-2017, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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So I don't know all in all I'd say if people are waiting until they're 35 and found the right person to get married, and THEN pop out babies. They're probably smart.
Except for the stubborn refusal to acknowledge that biology does not agree. A 35 year old woman is old. Period. It is not an optimal age to have a child. It is often disastrous to have a 1st child at that age. But in America we hide the overwhelming evidence of misery, and highlight the occasional happy endings.
 
Old 04-06-2017, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Gilbert, Arizona
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Does this mean that millennials are a bunch of spoiled brats!!!

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...lling-marriage
Are you that naive to think that by slapping a label on your relationship legally makes you worthy to normal society?

I'm in this millennial group that probably won't ever get "married" legally. Slapping some stupid label on just for the sake of it is idiotic. What "society" thinks is normal won't stop me from having a life long relationship together with someone if that's what I want to do.
 
Old 04-06-2017, 09:33 AM
 
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Except for the stubborn refusal to acknowledge that biology does not agree. A 35 year old woman is old. Period. It is not an optimal age to have a child. It is often disastrous to have a 1st child at that age. But in America we hide the overwhelming evidence of misery, and highlight the occasional happy endings.

It isn't optimal medically but it is what people are choosing to do. Women tend to be quiet about or deny problems that may be related to age.
 
Old 04-06-2017, 09:34 AM
 
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Every generation is different. Why does someone need to get married these days. There is no stigma anymore to not be married. So are millennials spoiled brats....not at all. I actually think they have it right.
I like to bring up Iceland in this sort of debate. Historically, bastardy didn't carry a stigma - young unmarried girls had babies, took good care of them, and that was pretty much the end of that. Still happens that way - 2/3rds of kids in Iceland are born to unwed mothers. And they seem to be doing fair-to-middlin'. (Possibly their weird naming conventions have something to do with it. Kids are named after their parents first name, so if Jon Hansson has a daughter named Karen, she may become Karen Jonsdottir. Or she may take the name of her mother. But in either case, last names aren't passed on.)

Biologically, it makes sense - it's generally easier and healthier to have kids at 21 than at 31, and if your family or gasp! - the welfare state can step in with resources, young mothers can still get an education and build careers. If they take an extra 10 years to find a man they want to marry, so what?
 
Old 04-06-2017, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Except for the stubborn refusal to acknowledge that biology does not agree. A 35 year old woman is old. Period. It is not an optimal age to have a child. It is often disastrous to have a 1st child at that age. But in America we hide the overwhelming evidence of misery, and highlight the occasional happy endings.
Generally not disastrous. It may be harder to get pregnant at that age. The risk of Down Syndrome goes up with age, any age. Gimmee a break with this "misery" shtick. "Happy endings" are the norm, not the outlier.
Down syndrome | March of Dimes
 
Old 04-06-2017, 09:43 AM
 
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Are you that naive to think that by slapping a label on your relationship legally makes you worthy to normal society?

I'm in this millennial group that probably won't ever get "married" legally. Slapping some stupid label on just for the sake of it is idiotic. What "society" thinks is normal won't stop me from having a life long relationship together with someone if that's what I want to do.

If enough people stop getting married it will cause a lot of confusion legally. Then the laws that apply to marriage will just be applied to domestic partnerships, or as common law marriage. In some states if you live together long enough you are considered married.
 
Old 04-06-2017, 09:43 AM
 
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Young people have had to delay a number of important life decision because you baby boomers and old farts ruined this country, including the political and economic system. Way to go...pat yourself on the back for a job well done
 
Old 04-06-2017, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Young people have had to delay a number of important life decision because you baby boomers and old farts ruined this country, including the political and economic system. Way to go...pat yourself on the back for a job well done
Oh, knock off! We're your parents! When are you going to quit fighting your mother and father? Adults usually learn to do that early on.
 
Old 04-06-2017, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Gilbert, Arizona
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If enough people stop getting married it will cause a lot of confusion legally. Then the laws that apply to marriage will just be applied to domestic partnerships, or as common law marriage. In some states if you live together long enough you are considered married.
When societies and societal structures change, the laws will need to be changed and updated. That's what freedom is all about.
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