CA Farmers whining they can't survive without illegal labor (unemployment, border, lobby)

[Bureaucat]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

lol cut the $178 a month that a family of 3 in Tennessee receives from welfare

It's pretty easy to spit out a pre-programmed propaganda line. It's hard to think. Too hard for many regulars here.

[hbdwihdh378y9]

Originally Posted by Suburban_Guy

This says it all:



Some are even raising wages to 22 bucks an hour plus benefits, and they still can't get workers.

So don't believe those that think higher wages is going to have Americans wanting to work in droves picking crop.

You're full of it. If people won't work for the wage that is offered, that means that the employer is not offering the market rate. They shouldn't be allowed to cheat by importing people to distort the market.

[Crazee Cat Lady]

It's going to be interesting when people have to pay twenty bucks for a bacon cheeseburger.

[hbdwihdh378y9]

Originally Posted by dothetwist

We need immigrant labor. Americans can't put their I-phones down long enough to pick a head of lettuce, let alone a bushel of tomatoes.

Guest worker program, with pathway to citizenship. Anything less and the crops rot in the fields and the price of a BLT goes to 25 bucks.

Baloney. Labor is 5% of the cost of produce. So the price of your BLT goes up by 10 cents. Cry me a river.

[AfriqueNY]

Originally Posted by Crazee Cat Lady

It's going to be interesting when people have to pay twenty bucks for a bacon cheeseburger.

That's what it costs in NYC. No joke

[mohawkx]

Originally Posted by hbdwihdh378y9

You're full of it. If people won't work for the wage that is offered, that means that the employer is not offering the market rate. They shouldn't be allowed to cheat by importing people to distort the market.

People won't pay the price for a grapefruit if the bottom line is 18.00 bucks an hour and a retirement plan for the pickers. The produce market would collapse. Sameo, Sameo, for chickens. You give the chicken pluckers a pension and a living wage, nobody will buy chickens.

Get a clue. All the hard, dirty jobs have always been done by immigrants.

[AfriqueNY]

The costs would go up. You can't pay reasonable wages to American workers because they would organize. The whole system would have to change.

[hbdwihdh378y9]

Originally Posted by AFP

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I can't picture any youth I know working in the hot blazing sun for 12 hours straight bent over at the waist picking lettuce or hoeing a rows upon rows of cotton. Those jobs suck and typically pay very little.

Well, then, obviously they should pay more.

[hbdwihdh378y9]

Originally Posted by mohawkx

People won't pay the price for a grapefruit if the bottom line is 18.00 bucks an hour and a retirement plan for the pickers. The produce market would collapse.

You're outrageously wrong. The price of labor is almost inconsequential. Paying a market wage would have a minimal effect on the produce market.

But the bottom line is, so what? If your business plan requires cheating, your business needs to fail.

By the way, workers need to make $12 per hour just to cover health care costs. Not food, housing, education, transportation, clothing, entertainment,

Just health care.

[MongooseHugger]

Originally Posted by AfriqueNY

That's what it costs in NYC. No joke

It had better come with fries and a drink and a smoothie and a salad bar and some mints at the end then!