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Old 01-13-2018, 11:59 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Juventud Guerrero View Post
I really don't understand why Americans have the misconception that Scandinavian countries are homogeneous; many "socialist" countries have a higher percentage of foreign born population than the US, meaning that they are more "diverse" than the US.

But I agree if you're into making money the US is the place to go.
I guess that is one metric of diversity, but that doesn't make Norway more diverse than the US.
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Old 01-13-2018, 12:00 PM
 
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Lol..like Norwegians really want to immigrate to this country. Cracked me up.

Exactly. I can't believe anyone would actually believe that.
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Old 01-13-2018, 12:02 PM
 
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The idea being that European and Scandinavian peoples are a better fit culturally and socially than people from other parts of the planet.

The founding stock of the American nation is European. The ideals upon which this nation was constructed...all European.
The language. The heritage. The culture. All European.
Perhaps that's true, but it won't be much longer, because Europeans don't want to come to America. They fell out of love with the US decades ago.
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Old 01-13-2018, 12:10 PM
 
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They don’t want to come here. Not at all.
That's not true the US have positive migration from European countries other than Germany and the Belnelux.

However the vast majority of Migration in both the US and Europe is from less developed countries there isn't a whole lot of Americans moving to Europe or vice versa.

It's less they wouldn't want to live here and more "why move half way around the world?"
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Old 01-13-2018, 12:15 PM
 
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Hi.

Norwegian here.

I am making $50.000 year, and is taxed 32%.
My wife is making $150.000 a year , and is taxed 34-38%.


When I was working in the oil sector, and made $120.000 a year, I tried 4 times to apply for the Green Card lottery. No dice.. Now, in my mid-thirties, I have NO reason to move to the US anymore. Other then to purchase AR-15 or handguns without to much waiting.

My wife who works in a huge multi national corp. in middle management, when she travels abroad or they come to Norway, and talks goes to work/life balance, benefits, compensation and workers rights as it often does, she says 99% wants to transfer to the Norwegian office. She also say the American are usually blown away with how employees are treated here, compared to the US.


I had a medical issue a few years back.. spent 2 or 3 years going back and forth between my doctor and specialists a couple of times every month and it cost me maybe $300 a year, including a hospital stay which did not cost a dime.



I would say, those emigrating from Norway to the US ( 500+ in 2017) are Economist or data engineers, where they have the potensial to earn 3-4 times more then here.. but for the average person not so much.
I have five questions about Norway for you:

1. What percentage of your population pays no national taxes on their income?

2. What percentage of your population has single parent households? (Not unmarried but single just one adult)

3. What is your violent crime rate?

4. What percentage of your population requires financial assistance on a permanent basis?

5. What percentage of your population are illegal immigrants?
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Old 01-13-2018, 12:16 PM
 
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That's not true the US have positive migration from European countries other than Germany and the Belnelux.
Yes, what desertdetroiter said IS true. Very few Europeans want to emigrate anywhere, least of all to the United States. To them, the US represents an entirely different culture, and in many ways, it is.

What I'd like to know is why so many on this thread seem to want Europeans to come, anyway. Most of y'all already do lots of bitchin' about American liberals. Europeans make American liberals and the Democrats look like Tea Partiers, for crying out loud. Do you not get that?
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Old 01-13-2018, 12:18 PM
 
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Oh look; your standard opinion response. Any stats? Of course not. Your opininion is that your emotions are data. They’re not.
YOUR opinion is that YOUR emotions are data. A very small minority of people living in other advanced countries would want to live in the US permanently. Completely different values.

Pedro: And if I - as someone born and raised in North America and having lived in the US for 20 years - "make a good liberal," as you said in your direct message to me, you can rest assured that ANY European would make an even better liberal!

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Old 01-13-2018, 12:21 PM
 
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YOUR opinion is that YOUR emotions are data. A very small minority of people living in other advance countries would want to live in the US. Not indefinitely, anyway. Completely different values.
Lol. You think me asking for data to back up a claim made by a poster is emotional opinion?
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Old 01-13-2018, 12:32 PM
 
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A very small minority of people living in other advanced countries would want to live in the US permanently.
There are plenty of Canadian retirees in Florida. Probably in the Southwest, too. And I'd bet that many elderly Scandanavians would like to do that. So what do these people do, live in some cold-***** place for their entire lives? As someone from the northern U.S., that sounds quite strange and unfortunate to me.
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Old 01-13-2018, 12:38 PM
 
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Yes, what desertdetroiter said IS true. Very few Europeans want to emigrate anywhere, least of all to the United States. To them, the US represents an entirely different culture, and in many ways, it is.

What I'd like to know is why so many on this thread seem to want Europeans to come, anyway. Most of y'all already do lots of bitchin' about American liberals. Europeans make American liberals and the Democrats look like Tea Partiers, for crying out loud. Do you not get that?
I edited my post to say that the vast majority of migration is from less developed countries to more developed ones, there is just no good reason to leave Western Europe or North America that would drive large numbers of people to move.
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