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Old 01-13-2018, 03:11 PM
 
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What does it matter if Norwegians and other white Westerners want to come to America or not? Some do and if we had a proper and sensible immigration policy like we did before the 1965 Immigration Act we could kill 2 birds with one stone, the excessive immigration levels and the quality or merit and compatibility of the immigration.


In accordance with America's western origins in 1609 and ~85% white western demographics up until the decades following the mass globalized immigration policy of the 1965 Act, ~85% of our immigrants should be of white western heritage. So if say only 85,000 European westerners want to immigrate per year, we'd only get about 15,000 non-western immigrants and a reasonable 100,000 immigrants/year. Those non-western immigrants should be form allied, friendly nations that have a historical track record of not being crapholes.
lol Exactly, to the bolded. This is just an excuse to compare the US to Norway and by extension other parts of Europe, and claim that Norway is superior and that no one wants to live here.

People are taking this whole situation way out of context, unsurprisingly. Trump was comparing the types of people (in socioeconomic terms, not racial ones) who come to the US from different types of countries - the third world ("sh*tholes") typically give us unskilled, low educated, poorer immigrants who often come here needing help, which burdens us. Wealthier western countries typically give us more educated, skilled, financially stable people who are less of a burden and are likely to contribute perhaps in more meaningful ways. He was making a statement about immigration policy and thinking of what is better for us as a nation.

Whether people from Norway actually want to or do come here is completely irrelevant and off-topic. People are either missing the point because they're idiots or are intentionally missing the point because 1. they can bash the president yet again and 2. they can also talk s*it about the US in the process.
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Old 01-13-2018, 03:12 PM
 
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Norway is petrol socialism , its funded by oil and a racially homogenous population

In America lavish welfare policies, high taxes, government redistribution, and a massively expanded public sector and you end up with pension crisis/ bankrupt states, cities and territories like Puerto rico,Illinois,Detroit, etc, and probably more to come
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Old 01-13-2018, 03:40 PM
 
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lol Exactly, to the bolded. This is just an excuse to compare the US to Norway and by extension other parts of Europe, and claim that Norway is superior and that no one wants to live here.

Whether people from Norway actually want to or do come here is completely irrelevant and off-topic. People are either missing the point because they're idiots or are intentionally missing the point because 1. they can bash the president yet again and 2. they can also talk s*it about the US in the process.
Don't think so. Most posters on here didn't start this thread. And this thread, like any other, is here for diverse opinions and ideas, no?

"...talk sh*t about the US"? We've done no such thing. The comparisons we've made are fact. Whether or not you LIKE those comparisons is irrelevant.

I haven't read any posts bashing Trump, either. We've simply said that most Europeans think less (far)favorably about the US since he's been elected. That is the truth, even if you don't want to hear it.
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Old 01-13-2018, 03:40 PM
 
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lol Exactly, to the bolded. This is just an excuse to compare the US to Norway and by extension other parts of Europe, and claim that Norway is superior and that no one wants to live here.

People are taking this whole situation way out of context, unsurprisingly. Trump was comparing the types of people (in socioeconomic terms, not racial ones) who come to the US from different types of countries - the third world ("sh*tholes") typically give us unskilled, low educated, poorer immigrants who often come here needing help, which burdens us. Wealthier western countries typically give us more educated, skilled, financially stable people who are less of a burden and are likely to contribute perhaps in more meaningful ways. He was making a statement about immigration policy and thinking of what is better for us as a nation.

Whether people from Norway actually want to or do come here is completely irrelevant and off-topic. People are either missing the point because they're idiots or are intentionally missing the point because 1. they can bash the president yet again and 2. they can also talk s*it about the US in the process.
Yes I agree Trump is most likely thinking in business terms, ie, hirer the best, immigrate the best and not thinking about the personality and racial/hereditary based differences of the world's racial/ethnic groups.

The Left wants to accuse him of the latter or being "RACIST " to shut him down and to pander to their non-white/anti-white base.

But the real truth, the truth liberals won't allow to be even spoken in the so-called land of free speech, is the world's racial/ethnic groups have different personality tendencies and differences due to nature and evolution. People create a culture and will tend to create that culture where ever you plant them in large numbers. It's obvious and true as saying the sun rises in the east.

So the question is do liberals just hate high achieving Americans and whites and seek to replace them demographically or is it they just want a permanent supermajority of non-Westerners voting block and even if that results in a craphole to rule over?

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Old 01-13-2018, 03:46 PM
 
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Don't think so. Most posters on here didn't start this thread. And this thread, like any other, is here for diverse opinions and ideas, no?

"...talk sh*t about the US"? We've done no such thing. The comparisons we've made are fact. Whether or not you LIKE those comparisons is irrelevant.

I haven't read any posts bashing Trump, either. We've simply said that most Europeans think less (far)favorably about the US since he's been elected. That is the truth, even if you don't want to hear it.
Don't pretend like you don't know what I mean. The whole premise of this thread comes from Trump's comments, which I already explained twice now on this thread.

Don't also pretend like people aren't low-key dissing the US by saying "why would anyone from Norway want to come here? they have free healthcare, blah blah." Don't act like I'm some idiot who is misunderstanding some posts and intents here, and don't try to pretend this is somehow about me not liking what people are saying here, either.

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Old 01-13-2018, 03:51 PM
 
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I haven't read any posts bashing Trump, either. We've simply said that most Europeans think less (far)favorably about the US since he's been elected. That is the truth, even if you don't want to hear it.
First off European countries, like all countries but to a lessor extent, are still somewhat rivals and competitors with America. Do you think they want America to be stronger and more prosperous? Don't be silly.

Second, why wouldn't Europeans be unfavorable of America due to Trump when like our mainstream media they are told what to think and say by their globalist anti-western/anti-white media? It's 24/7 brainwashing and propaganda against nation first and Trump in the Western media.

What misled, brainwashed or flat wrong people think especially foreigners thinks matters little to me. Their same thinking is destroying their own European counties.
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Old 01-13-2018, 03:59 PM
 
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I should also clarify that I don't just mean people on this thread, I mean people in the media and on social media. Not only has his whole comment (which was said in private and leaked) been intentionally taken out of context, but the Norway comment has been used as an excuse for people to say "why would we/anyone want to leave their countries and live there?" It's all pathetic when you actually stop and consider what he was actually saying with his comments. But it's way more fun to play the game so many have been playing, I know.
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Old 01-13-2018, 04:00 PM
 
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Norway's population has dropped to 5.1 million
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Old 01-13-2018, 04:07 PM
 
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I have five questions about Norway for you:

1. What percentage of your population pays no national taxes on their income?

2. What percentage of your population has single parent households? (Not unmarried but single just one adult)

3. What is your violent crime rate?

4. What percentage of your population requires financial assistance on a permanent basis?

5. What percentage of your population are illegal immigrants?
Do you not know how to research anything? Try Google!
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Old 01-13-2018, 04:07 PM
 
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Norway has 5 million people and everyone looks and thinks alike. We have 330 million people and no one looks or thinks alike. Why are you comparing the 2? And If I wanted had a business/capital to put to work YES absolutely the United States has by far the largest economy in the world.
Americans think a hell of a lot more alike than Norwegians do.
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