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"The first "soft-sided facilities," as the government calls them, have already been erected in Tornillo, Texas, a border town about 40 miles southeast of El Paso, said Kenneth Wolfe, a spokesman for the Administration for Children and Families at the Department of Health and Human Services. Around 360 children will be placed in the air-conditioned units in the coming days and more could be added in the future, he said. " https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ash/705562002/
Wouldn't it be nice if some of our mentally ill homeless population could live there. They don't like shelter buildings, but they do like tents. I'd rather see my tax money spent on our citizens.
A foreign national adult enters the United States illegally. Soon he and another illegal alien (maybe his wife, maybe not) have a child on U.S. soil. By current interpretation of law, the child is a U.S. citizen because he was born here. But the parents are not.
When the child is 2 years old, ICE officers find the parents are illegal aliens, and a judge rules that they must be deported to the country they came from.
What happens to the 2-year-old child?
And whose fault is it?
The illegal alien parents knew before they came in, that they were breaking the law and were subject to be deported for it, by law. Yet they decided to have a child on U.S. soil anyway.
Why did they put this new child into such a situation? What were their plans for the child in the event they got caught and deported?
The child is a U.S. citizen, and ICE knows they have no grounds to deport him.
Do the parents take the child with them back to the parent's country? Or do they leave him in the U.S., with relatives or good friends or etc.? It's the parents' choice and no one else's.
If they decide to leave the child in the U.S., who exactly is responsible for "breaking up the family"?
What had the parents planned to do with the child in the event they (the illegal-alien parents) were busted and deported?
If you have read the news reports you know that the people we are talking about aren't being picked up by Ice in America...they are Entering the country to try to legally at a check point (there are lines of people who wait for days to get to the check point) to legally apply for political asylum. So Ice isn't going to pick them up, they did not come into the country illegally.
You are writing about illegal Aliens...and that is a whole other kettle of fish...that is someone who came here illegally. I personally kind of think the law needs to changed there...perhaps a person should not be
deemed an American citizen just because they are born on American soil. But that is a whole different situation. And one for the Lawmakers to address.)
It is like comparing apples and oranges. The Refugees are asking for Asylum.
They are seeking to immigrate here...it is our Country that decides if they will or not.)
I am not saying that all should be accepted....I don't know the details of each and every case.
But being a Refugee is one thing, but when are seeking legal immigration status, that should not make you a criminal. What criminal act was performed there?
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but refugees do have a right to come here and seek asylum, whether it is denied or not. (And someone shouldn't be treated like a criminal, because they are
a refugee seeking asylum, and have their children ripped from them.)
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The people in this instant are very rarely Mexican, they are South Americans mostly from Honduras
and Ecuador seeking political asylum and often because/or partly because of the corruption of the Government from which they seeking Asylum.
They have a right to seek asylum but they do not have the right to roam freely within this country while their asylum case is evaluated.
And they choose to come here and seek asylum, they are not forced to by the US. They know the terms of entry (adults and minors in separate detention) therefore by choosing to enter they are agreeing to these terms. Don't like the terms, don't enter.
Yes, most are from Central America. They are not seeking asylum from Mexico so they can await evaluation of their asylum case in Mexico, if they like the terms offered by Mexico better.
He is such a liar, a fake, a phony. From his orange hair down to his bone spurs.
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Please stay on topic. We're talking about turning away illegals.
We are talking about a reprehensible trump policy that he implemented only a few weeks ago, a drastic change from his policy that has existed since he took office over a year ago. HE directed Sessions to do this. Now trump lies and says it's the fault of laws passed by Democrats and he has no choice but to separate families. It is an obvious lie by a liar of epic proportions. That IS the topic.
If you have read the news reports you know that the people we are talking about aren't being picked up by Ice in America...they are Entering the country legally at a check point (there are lines of people who wait for days to get to the check point) to legally apply for political asylum.
Yes, and they know the terms of entry - adults and minors detained in separate facilities until their asylum case is adjudicated.
Why kidnap the children and force them into camps?
Just deport the entire family together.
I think that had been the policy all along. After staying together in a facility -together- and having an asylum hearing before a judge. If they are not granted asylum the whole family is deported.
The problem is that there is a huge, huge backlog on the hearings. So “ deterrence “ is their answer to the stemming the flow of refugees from Central America.
I gave the answer. We do and always have separated American parents from their American kids anytime the parent is arrested for any reason, any misdemeanor. Why should we afford aliens an exception?
We separate American families for a misdemeanor? Please cite evidence.
We separate American families for a misdemeanor? Please cite evidence.
The complete absence of any jails in this country where adults and minors (except those charged as adults) are mixed, or males and females are mixed. In fact, our courts have ruled against it.
We separate American families for a misdemeanor? Please cite evidence.
Yep. Parent gets arrested. Then, must post bail. Guess what happens if they don't have enough $ to post bail? Separated families. Please tell me you already knew this.
Why kidnap the children and force them into camps?
Just deport the entire family together.
Nice. 1930s German officials would be proud.
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