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I am a Christian. I support separating children from their parents at the border 69 20.29%
I am a Christian. I do not support separating children from their parents at the border 80 23.53%
I am not a Christian. I support separating children from their parents at the border 59 17.35%
I am not a Christian. I do not support separating children from their parents at the border 132 38.82%
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Old 06-16-2018, 09:30 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Someone is stupid, lying, or in denial and I don't think it's Azar, guy was testifying before a committee.
right...because none of Trump's cabinet members have ever lied...uh huh...

 
Old 06-16-2018, 09:43 PM
 
Location: Connecticut
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You're sort of correct.

Canada and the US actually do have a first safe country rule. The trouble is, it only applies for those that go through normal border crossings. Right now Canada has a problem with refugee claimants from the USA that found a loop hole, by avoiding those normal border crossings.

Canada hopes the USA starts enforcing their laws on their side of the border and stop these "refugees" from coming into Canada. Canada doesn't have any empty Walmarts to keep them in!
They do however have plenty of empty Target's.
 
Old 06-16-2018, 09:43 PM
 
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How many immigrants are going to the Canadian border all at once? Just curious. One thing Canada does do is strictly enforce their immigration laws, which discourages this behavior. If the United States had been doing that all along we wouldn’t have this problem either. I read that the cartels are making millions of dollars a year escorting these people through Mexico to the border, so there is no incentive for Mexico to stop the practice, especially since they make millions of dollars a year on remittances and they get to shove off their poor to us so they don’t have to offer services to them. I wish these protesters were protesting the government policies of those countries and demanding better conditions. As western nations with lots of natural resources, there is no reason they should be so poor.
What does it matter how many refugee claimants appear at the border? NO OTHER COUNTRY separates children from their parents. It's cruel, it's inhumane, and contrary to the treaties the USA has agreed to.

Just ask that Muslim country Jordan. They have millions, literally millions, of refugees that appeared at their borders, and they don't break up families.

But then I guess that Muslim country doesn't follow the bible, which apparently Sessions and Huckabee say it allow this.
 
Old 06-16-2018, 09:54 PM
 
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Does it look like the kids are in "cages"?
Actually it looks pretty nice. The place is clean, the food looks good, the kids get exercise, etc. It may even be better than the places that they originally lived in.(and looks a whole lot better than the cages in that 2014 picture)
yeah this looks great too, maybe they did this on purpose so that the kids could pretend they are camping


https://twitter.com/i/moments/1008124478797307907
 
Old 06-16-2018, 10:02 PM
 
Location: Connecticut
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I think everyone who has a problem with this should open their homes up and take in the illegal families until their court date - they all go to court as a family and they are all deported at a family.

We also have no idea if these children are actually their children of if the adults are claiming this just to gain sympathy.

Sounds like a job for this guy and it only costs $400 per test.


 
Old 06-16-2018, 10:10 PM
 
Location: 89434
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Dems, have come a long way since I left the party, they expect us not to defend our borders and therefore they don't believe in our sovereignty as a country. No border = No country, lets see how well that works out
They just want more future voters
 
Old 06-16-2018, 10:16 PM
 
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yeah this looks great too, maybe they did this on purpose so that the kids could pretend they are camping


https://twitter.com/i/moments/1008124478797307907
Whose runnin the show, Sheriff Arpaio?
 
Old 06-16-2018, 10:25 PM
 
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Whose runnin the show, Sheriff Arpaio?
Sure looks like it from those photos huh?
 
Old 06-16-2018, 10:33 PM
 
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In the first place it is very unusual that both parents would go to prison, so there is usually a parent available to care for the child. Also, you don't get sent to prison the same day you break the law so you have months to find suitable arrangements for your children with grandparents, siblings, etc. It is NOT the same and that is a really lame argument.
The point you were trying to make, in the prior post that I'd responded to, was about taking kids away from their parents. Stop trying to move the goal posts.


"there is usually a parent available to care for the child"

Not always. There are many single parents, where the other parent is no longer in the picture or is incapable of taking in the kids, and not everyone has family either. What about the kids in those situations? Do we just let the parents off, no matter what their crime is, so that they don't have to be separated? Or do the kids, that are citizens, just not matter to you? Why are you not speaking out for the citizen kids, who are being separated from their parents because their parents go to prison? Is speaking out for only the illegal kids more glamorous or something?
 
Old 06-16-2018, 10:49 PM
 
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The people down in Central America are listening to the activists - many who are from USA. They pass out all this propaganda stuff.

Parents send their OWN Children by trains - cars to American border by themselves. What kind of parent does this? America has always had borders and I am sorry I do not want total globalization like the elite want. Mexico is keeping their culture and I do not blame them. I was born and raised in the USA as were my parents and their parents. All US Citizens - deceased now but all born in the USA. I am tired of these politicians and I hope people rise up and say NO.

I just read an article about Californians will be fined in 2020 for using too much water so what sense does it make to keep bringing in all these people?
Thats fine. But what about when america messes with their politics. See El Salvador. See how that in part led to MS 13.
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