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Old 10-15-2018, 07:24 PM
 
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Exactly, this claim she carefully sought out does as much or more to question any claim of Indian ancestry than strengthen it.
Yeah, she has not helped herself with this latest episode.
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Old 10-15-2018, 07:26 PM
 
Location: WY
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My neighbors' Jeep Cherokee has more Native American blood than that imbecile Warren.
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Old 10-15-2018, 07:29 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Still doesn't make her NA. African Americans and the vast majority of slave descendants in the Americas have European ancestry. Can we call ourselves white? That would be a monumental stretch.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/elizab...a-test-results
Many tribes use blood quantum to determine whether a person is a tribal member or not.

There are a lot of native Americans who are tribal members with no more indigenous blood in them than Warren these days. How much of the genetics qualifies a person is up to the individual tribe.

So- who's to say? For sure, the tribes maintain they are the ones that have the say of who is or who is not native American. How you or I feel about it is of no consequence.
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Old 10-15-2018, 07:30 PM
 
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However, she never got any advantage from that even if she did list herself in a law professor's listing. The documents from her schools and confirm that they viewed her as a white woman.

And she did not LIE. She took her family's word on her heritage. I take my family's word also. Don't you?

Whether she gained any advantage or not is immaterial? You disagree? I mean, if a robber tries to hold up a bank, does he get off if he didn't actually get any money out of it?



She "identified" herself as Native American for some reason. Maybe just to impress people, who knows? I can't say what's in her heart but it doesn't strike me as "heritage pride" unless she can show where she actually walked the walk, learned and practiced NA customs and participated in NA culture.
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Old 10-15-2018, 07:44 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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Some days I love Twitter:

https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/1051839318426378242
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Old 10-15-2018, 07:46 PM
 
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So- who's to say? For sure, the tribes maintain they are the ones that have the say of who is or who is not native American. How you or I feel about it is of no consequence.

Have you seen how the tribes feel about Pocahontas' claims? They see here as a white woman making an illegitimate claim and disrespecting the honor of real Native Americans.
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Old 10-15-2018, 07:47 PM
 
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My neighbors' Jeep Cherokee has more Native American blood than that imbecile Warren.
Lol. Amen.
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Old 10-15-2018, 07:48 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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Whether she gained any advantage or not is immaterial? You disagree? I mean, if a robber tries to hold up a bank, does he get off if he didn't actually get any money out of it?



She "identified" herself as Native American for some reason. Maybe just to impress people, who knows? I can't say what's in her heart but it doesn't strike me as "heritage pride" unless she can show where she actually walked the walk, learned and practiced NA customs and participated in NA culture.
Actually, several people she has gone camping with have testified that Warren does indeed build a little fire, and sits up close.
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Old 10-15-2018, 07:51 PM
 
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Still doesn't make her NA. African Americans and the vast majority of slave descendants in the Americas have European ancestry. Can we call ourselves white? That would be a monumental stretch.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/elizab...a-test-results
Quantum blood isn't relevant due to whitewashing so yeah she's probably Indigenous. Untill recent history, many relatives wouldn't admit to being Native American due to racism.
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Old 10-15-2018, 07:52 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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What personal advantage? She did not put it on college or job apps, and it only came up as a secondary item after she was hired at Harvard.
Don’t expect an answer, that would require facts.
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