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Old 10-15-2018, 08:00 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Cherokee Nation has releases a press release informing Senator Elizabeth Warren that her DNA test is worthless to determine tribal citizenship.

Cherokee Nation Secretary of State Chuck Hoskin said in a press release:
"Current DNA tests do not even distinguish whether a person’s ancestors were indigenous to North or South America."

"Sovereign tribal nations set their own legal requirements for citizenship, and while DNA tests can be used to determine lineage, such as paternity to an individual, it is not evidence for tribal affiliation. Using a DNA test to lay claim to any connection to the Cherokee Nation or any tribal nation, even vaguely, is inappropriate and wrong. It makes a mockery out of DNA tests and its legitimate uses while also dishonoring legitimate tribal governments and their citizens, whose ancestors are well documented and whose heritage is proven. Senator Warren is undermining tribal interests with her continued claims of tribal heritage."

So, Cherokee Nation has just accused Senator Warren of the worst kind of cultural appropriation - the actual improper appropriation of a culture, not her own. They have accused her of making a mockery out of DNA Tests and of dishonoring legitimate tribal governments and their citizens. They have also flatly rejected her claims of tribal heritage with the Cherokees.

And with that, in all likelihood, Senator Warren's presidential aspirations draw to a close.
No. Not at all. Warren only said that by her family's oral tradition, her tribal connection is Cherokee. She has native DNA to back that claim up now, but DNA won't determine the tribe. For a fact, oral family history often gets associations like this wrong as the years pass.

If the Cherokee doesn't want to accept her only on the basis of her DNA, that does not mean they won't accept her if she applies and by their own findings decided she qualifies. Tribes have their own historical records, so acceptance often takes some time.

But there is absolutely nothing in this that smacks of cultural appropriation. Elizabeth Warren claimed she has native blood, and she does. She's never tried to appropriate a single thing from any native American.

The Cherokee haven't flatly denied her yet, nor her claims. Because she has not yet applied, and may never do so.

The object of the DNA test was not to prove Warren was Cherokee. It was to prove she has native American blood, and so she does. The only reason why she got the test was because Donald Trump claimed she had no Native ancestors. That her claim was a lie.

Trump, once more, didn't know what he was talking about when he was denigrating her.

He bet her $1 Million dollars she had no native blood. So now, let's see of he welches on his bet. I'm willing to state right now that he won't pay up- once more his alligator mouth ran away with his butterfly ass.

I'm sure another tribe will be very happy to have a sitting U.S. Senator with legitimate DNA to join them if the Cherokee don't admit her.

All our native tribes have many legitimate needs, so there are some obvious advantages to admitting Warren into any tribe.
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Old 10-15-2018, 08:02 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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This outlines all the times Warren lied and claimed to be NDN and Cherokee:

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/sta...92151938887680

There's several here, you have to click on it to see the rest.
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Old 10-15-2018, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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All our native tribes have many legitimate needs, so there are some obvious advantages to admitting Warren into any tribe.
Indeed. She’s already a paid-up member of the lunatic leftists. Look how much she’s done for them.
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Old 10-15-2018, 08:08 PM
 
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I have 2% Jewish DNA but I don't take Jewish holidays off from work.
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Old 10-15-2018, 08:08 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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The question is will Trump renege on his bet or will he man up.
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Old 10-15-2018, 08:15 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Because her blood quantum is insignificant. Why do you keep fighting common sense here?
No not really, up to this point the claim was that she didn't have any native American blood, period.
Now her blood quantum is insignificant.
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Old 10-15-2018, 08:18 PM
 
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I have 2% Jewish DNA but I don't take Jewish holidays off from work.
At least you have 2%......Warren has 0.08% and it's probable more from South America.....LMAO!
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Old 10-15-2018, 08:18 PM
 
Location: Metro Seattle Area - Born and Raised
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Wasn't the former British Prime Minister, Sir Winston Churchill's mother, an American, who had some Native American blood in her? If so, I bet he was technically more Native American than E. warren is or will ever be. I'm pretty sure Churchill never claimed anything other than being White of British descent and looking at many pictures and films of him, he's without question, White.

This isn't a Left verse Right issue. She isn't Native American and "her" tribe, the Cherokee Nation has made it very clear, she isn't a Cherokee or even Native American.

Sorry, but in this case, I believe the leadership of the Cherokee Nation far more than anybody from the Rebublican or Democratic Party in this case.
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Old 10-15-2018, 08:20 PM
 
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The question is will Trump renege on his bet or will he man up.

Warren didn't prove anything. Warren will look for stupid is she pushes this further.
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Old 10-15-2018, 08:21 PM
 
Location: Here
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Warren didn't prove anything. Warren will look for stupid is she pushes this further.
She'd have been better off to just let this one go. LOL
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