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Old 10-22-2018, 08:37 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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The Republicans are in charge but it’s impossible with the Democraps acting as saboteurs just to see Trump fails.
The bolded says it all. The republicans are in charge. Stop blaming everyone else.

This is Trump's problem. He needs to handle it instead of tweeting about it.

Sweet Jesus. Is that too much to ask?
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Old 10-22-2018, 08:41 AM
 
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In 50 years perhaps.

Red Belt margins are mostly very large. Rust Belt demographics are changing at far slower rate than the extreme example, Ca, you picked.

Waiting for demographics to wipe out wwc influence is Fools Gold.

In the interim, illegal aliens are largely responsible for 30 plus years each of SC associates Gorsuch & Ginsberg. In 2 years, our 45th POTUS shaped the court for the next 7 POTUS terms.


Keep waiting with your care package for your caravan, though.


The huge population-centers, for the most part, are what has most sway in the direction this country takes. Electoral votes in places like CA, New York and Texas.........the winner of these, is the ruler of the USA. When Texas goes reliably Blue, in less than 10 years, the Dems are going to be hard to beat on many levels.
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Old 10-22-2018, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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I'm a life long democrat but even I'm continuously disappointed that democrats keep forcing illegal immigrants down the population's throats. You're not going to convince rust belt moderates who determine elections that illegal immigration is good and the more they continue to do this, the more they are going to lose. Taxes, health care, education, and other social services are issues that matter to me the most but democrats are making immigration the focal point of their platform which sidelines all the other issues.
When they think it no longer works in their favor, politically.

Just a few years ago, all the Democratic Party leaders were against illegal immigration, and favored traditional marriage. Then they figured they could do a 180 degree flip on both issues, use those issues to beat the repubs over the head with, by pretending they were the thoughtful, empathetic, nice people. And of course, win votes

So whenever illegal immigration starts to be a losing issue for them with the mindless simp Democrat voters, they will flip back and be all about law an order again.
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Old 10-22-2018, 11:48 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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The Democrat party is the illegal immigrant party.

There is no other issue for them to win on.
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Old 10-22-2018, 03:41 PM
 
Location: USA
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It’s kind of bizarre that a party that wants universal healthcare also wants open borders. It’s not possible to have both.

Unfortunately, many on the left don’t seem to understand that there is no “free lunch.”

I say that even though I am far more Democrat than Republican.
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Old 10-22-2018, 03:55 PM
 
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I'm a life long democrat but even I'm continuously disappointed that democrats keep forcing illegal immigrants down the population's throats. You're not going to convince rust belt moderates who determine elections that illegal immigration is good and the more they continue to do this, the more they are going to lose. Taxes, health care, education, and other social services are issues that matter to me the most but democrats are making immigration the focal point of their platform which sidelines all the other issues.
Tell the rustbelt folks on farms to quit employing them then
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Old 10-22-2018, 03:57 PM
 
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It’s kind of bizarre that a party that wants universal healthcare also wants open borders. It’s not possible to have both.

Unfortunately, many on the left don’t seem to understand that there is no “free lunch.”

I say that even though I am far more Democrat than Republican.
Can you show me where the Democratic platform states anything about "open borders"?

Also, what do republicans plan on doing with employers that use illegal labor? Republicans never talk about the employers who cheat, just the illegals.

Thanks
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Old 10-22-2018, 04:01 PM
 
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Tell the rustbelt folks on farms to quit employing them then
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Old 10-22-2018, 04:09 PM
 
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Tell the rustbelt folks on farms to quit employing them then
You don't tell them, you find them. And don't kid yourself, the majority of illegals live in California.

Will democrats get behind a bill that will make everify mandatory across the country, heavily fine employers, focus on finding and deporting illegals already in the country, removing ridiculous sanctuary laws?
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Old 10-22-2018, 05:13 PM
 
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The huge population-centers, for the most part, are what has most sway in the direction this country takes. Electoral votes in places like CA, New York and Texas.........the winner of these, is the ruler of the USA. When Texas goes reliably Blue, in less than 10 years, the Dems are going to be hard to beat on many levels.

Texas will not be blue for 30-40 years, and POTUS Trump won w/o CA or NY.

Newsflash: Florida passed NY in population years ago. Others will in the next few decades. NY State has de-populated.

Dems cant win POTUS w/o the Rust Belt and the wwc.
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