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Old 02-15-2019, 05:09 AM
 
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Declare and emergency … limit the size of the bullet and load and magazine size …. tada … you still have your guns .. 2nd is safe ….
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Old 02-15-2019, 05:17 AM
 
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Guns are not only legal, but are a Constitutionally protected right.


Crossing the border illegaly is not.
Who needs facts when they can make up scenarios?
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Old 02-15-2019, 05:21 AM
 
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Hah! Barking up the wrong tree, by a mile. Posters do not want to acknowledge this as an epidemic, because they are fat-asses, to. Typing away.
https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/adult.html
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Obesity is common, serious, and costly
The prevalence of obesity was 39.8% and affected about 93.3 million of US adults in 2015~2016. [Read CDC National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS) data briefCdc-pdf PDF-603KB]
Obesity-related conditions include heart disease, stroke, type 2 diabetes and certain types of cancer that are some of the leading causes of preventable, premature death. [Read guidelinesExternal]
The estimated annual medical cost of obesity in the United States was $147 billion in 2008 US dollars; the medical cost for people who have obesity was $1,429 higher than those of normal weight. [Read paperExternal]
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Obesity affects some groups more than others
[Read CDC National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS) data briefCdc-pdf [PDF-603KB]]

Hispanics (47.0%) and non-Hispanic blacks (46.8%) had the highest age-adjusted prevalence of obesity, followed by non-Hispanic whites (37.9%) and non-Hispanic Asians (12.7%).
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It has taken far more lives than all people any illegal aliens have killed or hurt.

So if Trump can go around Congress for the wall, get ready for the next D president to go full force on confronting the national epidemic of gun violence.

I didn’t want an expansion of executive power, but you cons seem ok with it to further your pet projects. You’ll have to bear that position in mind when the shoe is on the other foot.
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Old 02-15-2019, 05:23 AM
 
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It has taken far more lives than all people any illegal aliens have killed or hurt.

So if Trump can go around Congress for the wall, get ready for the next D president to go full force on confronting the national epidemic of gun violence.

I didn’t want an expansion of executive power, but you cons seem ok with it to further your pet projects. You’ll have to bear that position in mind when the shoe is on the other foot.
Why dont you declare a national emergency against murder? If there were no guns. Gangbangers would just kill people with knives or other weapons.

Its the person doing the killing , not the tool.
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Old 02-15-2019, 05:36 AM
 
Location: Long Island, N.Y.
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It has taken far more lives than all people any illegal aliens have killed or hurt.

So if Trump can go around Congress for the wall, get ready for the next D president to go full force on confronting the national epidemic of gun violence.

I didn’t want an expansion of executive power, but you cons seem ok with it to further your pet projects. You’ll have to bear that position in mind when the shoe is on the other foot.
Negative, cowboy. You cannot null and void a Constitutional right by declaring an emergency.
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Old 02-15-2019, 05:40 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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The amount of illegal drugs coming from Mexico is soaring, and overdose deaths are far higher than from guns. Between 2016 and 2017 alone, the death rate from opioids like fentanyl rose 45%. In 1999 the drug od death rate was 6.1/100,000, by 2017 it was 21.7/100,000. Sounds like a national emergency to me.
How El Chapo smuggled drugs into the US:

Secret tunnels.
Hidden in tanker trucks.
Hidden in the chassis of cars.
Hidden in rail cars.
Hidden in jalapeno cans, carried by trucks.

So, how exactly is a wall the answer to this "national emergency"?
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Old 02-15-2019, 05:50 AM
 
Location: IL
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I would say cars are a natl emergency too. Ban them
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Old 02-15-2019, 05:54 AM
 
Location: Posting from my space yacht.
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So could a GOP president then declare an abortion emergency?
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Old 02-15-2019, 05:57 AM
 
Location: Florida
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It's hard to disagree that too many people die of gun violence, suicides, accidental shootings, etc.
Compared to our peers, the US has rates of violence that should embarrass and shame anyone with a conscious.

The question to the OP is: What exactly would you propose doing to solve the national epidemic of gun violence?

Warning!- Certain hardcore gun lovers on this forum tend to get riled up, delusional & paranoid (edit: I see this is already happening) if someone says anything other than guns should be the value we hold above all other values.

But it would at least be good to hear what you're talking about before people assume the worst (though some will do that anyway).
If anyone is worried that Trump's fake National Emergency will be an opportunity for future presidents to institute whatever policies they like for their own personal political needs and for their minority base, they should be.

And they should be encouraging Trump not to act like a spoiled brat. This will hurt him, but those are the breaks when you have clueless inexperienced people who cannot even obtain security clearances advising Trump.
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Old 02-15-2019, 05:59 AM
 
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Aha! Totally correct. Cowboy.

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Negative, cowboy. You cannot null and void a Constitutional right by declaring an emergency.
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