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It has taken far more lives than all people any illegal aliens have killed or hurt.
So if Trump can go around Congress for the wall, get ready for the next D president to go full force on confronting the national epidemic of gun violence.
I didn’t want an expansion of executive power, but you cons seem ok with it to further your pet projects. You’ll have to bear that position in mind when the shoe is on the other foot.
Here's 3 suggestions, let's start with good parenting, going after black market gun dealers, where criminals obtain their guns, and by keeping criminals where they belong, in prisons instead of letting them out early before they serve their full sentence. Deport illegals who don't respect our laws, and keep them out of our country by making it impossible for them to come across the southern border. On that thought, this is what typically happens, an illegal who gets arrested for shoplifting or other minor criminal offenses, gets deported, manages to come across the border again and commits more serious criminal acts, including those with guns obtained through illegal means.
Punish the offenders, not us decent law-abiding gun owners.
Then I just start making my own.....how are you going to jump through that hoop?
Point being, you are only holding down the law abiding.....not the criminal....why is that so hard to understand?
Your homemade gun would be illegal.
Just using the same roundabout reasoning used to restrict a woman's right to choose.
For instance, Kermit Gosnell, a criminal sent to prison for breaking the law, is routinely used as a scapegoat by pro-lifers to further restrict abortion rights.
Why shouldn't what criminals do with guns be used to further restrict what the law abiding do with guns?
A criminal could possibly steal your gun and kill someone with it, therefore you shouldn't have one.
A teenager could possibly steal their parent's gun, take it to school and kill a dozen other kids, therefore, parents of minors should not be allowed to own guns.
I consider the suggestions I posted to be preventative measures, we do have the instant background check, which criminals avoid. In most cases, getting guns out of the hands of criminals can only be done when:
1) Criminals are killed by law-abiding gun owners protecting themselves
2) Criminals killing other criminals - Those who live by the sword shall die by the sword.
Punish the offenders, not us decent law-abiding gun owners.
It's a nice fantasy - goes back to the simple minded thinking that began in the John Wayne movie era where the good guys with guns always won over the evil guys.
Unfortunately real life is not as convenient or simple. The reality is that no matter how many people you punish, as long as we have a nation that is awash with weaponry, the USA will lead the world, as we do now - in gun homicides. We have 16 times as many gun homicides as Germany. It's not because we have more lawbreakers, folks. It's because we have a LOT more guns.
The reality as we have discovered after having these conversations for years with gun advocates - is that deep down, there is a part of America that loves violence and the drama that surrounds it. In other words they want to have unlimited opportunity to own and proliferate guns, but don't really care about or understand the implications - and don't want to learn. This is partly because of the erosion of critical thinking skills (nothing bad will ever happen to me or mine at the wrong end of a gun, right?).
Last edited by GearHeadDave; 02-15-2019 at 10:11 AM..
Not talking about taking away rights, talking about increased regulation for the greater good, to enhance safety.
Gun regulations are legal, it is legal to enforce them.......and it is LEGAL to add more.
And at which point do you think just one more piece of regulation will make the criminals listen ?
Maybe try some logical thinking sometime, you might be surprised.
Just using the same roundabout reasoning used to restrict a woman's right to choose.
For instance, Kermit Gosnell, a criminal sent to prison for breaking the law, is routinely used as a scapegoat by pro-lifers to further restrict abortion rights.
Why shouldn't what criminals do with guns be used to further restrict what the law abiding do with guns?
A criminal could possibly steal your gun and kill someone with it, therefore you shouldn't have one.
A teenager could possibly steal their parent's gun, take it to school and kill a dozen other kids, therefore, parents of minors should not be allowed to own guns.
Just asking for consistency.
Here is your consistency....
As long as we do it across the board on everything....so, how would you like to have to blow in an air tube to get your car to start, even though you don't drink......but others have been killed by drunk drivers....yes?
Or, how about, if you have a pool, you will have a fence around it, no matter if you have kids or not, a child "could" wander into your back yard.
It has taken far more lives than all people any illegal aliens have killed or hurt.
So if Trump can go around Congress for the wall, get ready for the next D president to go full force on confronting the national epidemic of gun violence.
I didn’t want an expansion of executive power, but you cons seem ok with it to further your pet projects. You’ll have to bear that position in mind when the shoe is on the other foot.
Molon labe.
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