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Old 05-20-2019, 02:23 AM
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Here's the thing - it's all about context. This was really about internal infighting within the Liberals (which is actually a center-right party) - where they have dumped two party leaders and prime ministers (Turnbull and Abbott). Morrison emerged as a winner because he was able to trascend much of these party divisions.
My understanding is Morrison focused on unfashionable matters such as home,job and family.
Whereas his Labour opponents thought climate,transgender and woke matters were important.
It many ways it mirrors how the British Labour Party has abandoned its traditional blue collar support in favour of metropolitan Sandalistas.
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Old 05-20-2019, 03:02 AM
 
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My understanding is Morrison focused on unfashionable matters such as home,job and family.
Whereas his Labour opponents thought climate,transgender and woke matters were important.
It many ways it mirrors how the British Labour Party has abandoned its traditional blue collar support in favour of metropolitan Sandalistas.
Morrison benefited from "Billery" Shorten being very personally unpopular and focussed on the enormous cost to ordinary Australians of implementing Shortens redistributive agenda. Shorten wasn't able to quantify how much his Climate campaign would actually cost us. He told us it was a stupid question to even ask because of the cost of doing nothing (doing nothing isn't even on the table, the Coalition has a suitable climate change policy). He wasn't trusted and his career has fallen at the final hurdle.
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Old 05-20-2019, 04:30 AM
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Morrison benefited from "Billery" Shorten being very personally unpopular and focussed on the enormous cost to ordinary Australians of implementing Shortens redistributive agenda. Shorten wasn't able to quantify how much his Climate campaign would actually cost us. He told us it was a stupid question to even ask because of the cost of doing nothing (doing nothing isn't even on the table, the Coalition has a suitable climate change policy). He wasn't trusted and his career has fallen at the final hurdle.

But you would accept that the centre-left can't win if it fails to cultivate working class support ?
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Old 05-20-2019, 05:00 AM
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This feller certainly seems to think so ...


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Old 05-20-2019, 05:13 AM
 
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This feller certainly seems to think so ...


Worldwide, a new paradigm is taking shape...

Classical liberalism vs postmodern illiberalism.
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Old 05-20-2019, 05:37 AM
 
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But you would accept that the centre-left can't win if it fails to cultivate working class support ?
Of course, if they don't have that, there isn't much else left for them.
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Old 05-20-2019, 05:43 AM
 
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No. Not even close.
What are their plans in regards to health care, education and abortion?

If their policy is to do away with the current health care and education systems and ban abortion, then why haven't they done so already?

The truth is that they are bragging about pouring more taxpayer money into health care than their opponents, and they are the driving force behind the government funded internet network.

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Our new five-year public hospital agreement with the states and territories delivers $31 billion more funding for hospitals (between 2020-21 and 2024-25).

Annual hospital funding will more than double compared to Labor – from $13.3 billion in 2012-13 to $29.1 billion in 2024-25.

Over 133 million free GP services were delivered last year. This is 27.3 million more than in Labor’s last year.

The GP bulk billing rate last year was 86.1%, up from 82.1% under Labor. This means almost nine out of ten visits to the doctor are free.

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Old 05-20-2019, 06:14 AM
 
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What are their plans in regards to health care, education and abortion?

If their policy is to do away with the current health care and education systems and ban abortion, then why haven't they done so already?

The truth is that they are bragging about pouring more taxpayer money into health care than their opponents, and they are the driving force behind the government funded internet network.
Sorry Finn, your research is superficial and you are coming at it with a fundamental ignorance of Australia and the Australian political system. Your last point is laughable.
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Old 05-20-2019, 06:18 AM
 
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Sorry Finn, your research is superficial and you are coming at it with a fundamental ignorance of Australia and the Australian political system. Your last point is laughable.
You can laugh, but you do it in order to conceal the truth. The liberal party is no more conservative than the Dems in US. Or maybe you are ignorant about the Dems in US. The Dems revamped the health care system in US, but did not go anywhere near as far left as liberals in AUS did.

As for the internet, can you explain what National Broadband Network is, and how it is funded. Heck, it was the largest infrastructure project in Australia's history

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intern...adband_Network

The National Broadband Network was initially a fibre to the home (FTTH) open-access network in planning and trial operation in Australia by the federal government. The national broadband network aimed to provide up to 1000 Mbit/s speeds and to connect to 93% of Australian households and businesses
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Old 05-20-2019, 06:31 AM
 
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Morrison benefited from "Billery" Shorten being very personally unpopular and focussed on the enormous cost to ordinary Australians of implementing Shortens redistributive agenda. Shorten wasn't able to quantify how much his Climate campaign would actually cost us. He told us it was a stupid question to even ask because of the cost of doing nothing (doing nothing isn't even on the table, the Coalition has a suitable climate change policy). He wasn't trusted and his career has fallen at the final hurdle.
Quick question: how do you see the election's impact on the future of the Adani Carmichael mine in Queensland?
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