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Old 06-22-2021, 05:24 AM
 
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This thread is living proof that extremism in a cause leads to ugly counter-reactions that ultimately end up hurting the cause.

BTW this ugliness would still exist anyway but at least it wouldn't be out there in the mainstream being legitimized.

Most fair-minded people are sympathetic to what trans people have to go through in life.
Yes, a trans-person has a hard road in life. A friend of mine has a son who, at age 8, identifies as female. He is the sweetest little boy, and assuming this is not going to fade away, he is facing difficult challenges ahead. My heart goes out to him.

But my heart also goes out to the girls who have trained their entire lives for the Olympics (or even at a lesser scale - in high school, hoping for college scholarships), only to have their hopes dashed when a bio-male enters the competition.

As I reported before, males have an unbelievable physical advantage over females: the 20-year-old kid who gave me tennis lessons when I was in my late teens lived next door to Chris Evert, at the height of her career. He had won some regionals, but never made it on to the national scene. He told me that he had played her a number of times, and when I asked him if he had ever won a match against her, he told HE almost always won, every single game. THAT tells you how extreme the advantage: an unheard-of male beats out the #1 female champion.
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Old 06-22-2021, 05:37 AM
 
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It's pretty simple: Regardless of what you do to the rest of your body, if you have a wee-wee, you compete with the women.
If you have a pee-pee, you compete with the men.


With that being said, I imagine most of the women athletes are pretty 'woke,' so let them eat it.
All of the women 100 meter medalists have testicles, even internally. It seems like that is the issue, because of testosterone.
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Old 06-22-2021, 06:05 AM
 
Location: Brackenwood
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Originally Posted by Acajack View Post
This thread is living proof that extremism in a cause leads to ugly counter-reactions that ultimately end up hurting the cause.

BTW this ugliness would still exist anyway but at least it wouldn't be out there in the mainstream being legitimized.

Most fair-minded people are sympathetic to what trans people have to go through in life.
We become much less sympathetic when they demand what they're going through redefine the terms and conditions of OUR day-to-day existence.
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Old 06-22-2021, 06:09 AM
 
Location: Austin TX
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We become much less sympathetic when they demand what they're going through redefine the terms and conditions of OUR day-to-day existence.
Yes! A thousand times this.
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Old 06-22-2021, 06:15 AM
 
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"CIS Women's sports are DEAD"
Thats the only kind of woman there is. Anything else is just make-believe.
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Old 06-22-2021, 06:30 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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As I reported before, males have an unbelievable physical advantage over females: the 20-year-old kid who gave me tennis lessons when I was in my late teens lived next door to Chris Evert, at the height of her career. He had won some regionals, but never made it on to the national scene. He told me that he had played her a number of times, and when I asked him if he had ever won a match against her, he told HE almost always won, every single game. THAT tells you how extreme the advantage: an unheard-of male beats out the #1 female champion.
Yes, you've told us this story before. But the story does a disservice to how good the top female athletes actually are. People who actually know the game of tennis have estimated that Serena Williams would be somewhere between 200 and 700 in the world against males.

Sha'Carri Richardson ran a 10.65 100 meters at the Olympic trials. That isn't fast by male elite standards but you would STILL have to be just below elite as a male to transgender and beat her due to the fact that transgendering is going slow them down some.

People act like some random dude is going to just transgender and beat all these women and that's simply not true.
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Old 06-22-2021, 06:34 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Yes, you've told us this story before. But the story does a disservice to how good the top female athletes actually are. People who actually know the game of tennis have estimated that Serena Williams would be somewhere between 200 and 700 in the world against males.

Sha'Carri Richardson ran a 10.65 100 meters at the Olympic trials. That isn't fast by male elite standards but you would STILL have to be just below elite as a male to transgender and beat her due to the fact that transgendering is going slow them down some.

People act like some random dude is going to just transgender and beat all these women and that's simply not true.
No, keep dreaming. Serena Williams would be severely beaten by almost all male Pro tennis players and many college. It would be an embarrassing joke even though she looks like an NFL linebacker in drag.
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Old 06-22-2021, 06:39 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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For all the gains women have made in sports over the last two decades it's amazing many of them are going to stand idly by and watch that be obliterated by biological males competing in their sports.
CT track championships. If you truly watch the boys destroy the girls in that video you can actually see the mechanical advantage bio males have. For lack of a better word, you can see all but 1 of the females run more "outboard" One female who did well had much narrower hips.
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Old 06-22-2021, 07:06 AM
 
Location: DFW
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Do I have this right?

Women athletes who test positive for Steroids (hormones) can be disqualified from the Olympics, but guys who couldn't successfully compete against men, can be plum full of the same natural hormone and compete against women.
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Old 06-22-2021, 07:11 AM
 
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Yes, you've told us this story before. But the story does a disservice to how good the top female athletes actually are. People who actually know the game of tennis have estimated that Serena Williams would be somewhere between 200 and 700 in the world against males.

Sha'Carri Richardson ran a 10.65 100 meters at the Olympic trials. That isn't fast by male elite standards but you would STILL have to be just below elite as a male to transgender and beat her due to the fact that transgendering is going slow them down some.

People act like some random dude is going to just transgender and beat all these women and that's simply not true.
No....not a random dude. But a dude who has trained in his sport, practiced for years, and still come in dead last on a men’s team. He would be the winner on a female team.

Why do you think there are no female NFL players? MLB players? Because when you get to the top echelon of any sport, NO woman in the world could make the cut when competing against the top men.
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