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Old 06-22-2021, 08:30 PM
 
Location: Elysium
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Randomly draw horses???????
Like the rodeo, they don't get to choose the bull that they ride.
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Old 06-22-2021, 08:34 PM
 
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Sports need to abide by science and let the absence of the Y chromosome determine an individual's ability to compete as female.
Yes, I know exceptions exist in which SRY is damaged (leading to an XY female). These exceptions can easily be identified and addressed.

Testing for the YT chromosome would prevent me from deciding "Hey, I'm female" and taking hormones to enable me to compete against women.
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Old 06-22-2021, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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Is it big news Joe? I know this bloke has been competing in the womens events for quite a while so it isn't a revelation to the community, but is it causing disquiet? Or is Jacinda tamping that down?
Sort of, but it's been an issue for quite a while so people have grown a bit bored of it. Most people seem opposed to it, but that has become more indifference now I think - I doubt many will choose my path of total boycott.

The only place you hear outright condemnation is on talkback radio, and their are opinion pieces that are questioning, but most other media seem to be stuck on the words courageous or brave.
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Old 06-22-2021, 09:41 PM
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZvOlac1FDU
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Old 06-22-2021, 10:55 PM
 
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Laurel Hubbard was born a man and was into weightlifting without much success. However, in her 30s she transitioned to being a woman and now at 41 is dominating women's weightlifting competitions. She just won 2 Golds and a Silver medal in her 3 events including beating out the strongest woman from the most recent commonwealth games.

An organization called "Speak up for women" is arguing that people born as men should not be allowed to compete as women, while others are saying that speak up for women is being discriminatory and hurtful.

Should Laurel Hubbard be allowed to compete in the Olympics with the women?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mor...cid=spartanntp
Of course he is dominating women sports
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Old 06-22-2021, 11:07 PM
 
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He should never had been allowed on the women team anyway.
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Old 06-23-2021, 05:30 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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We're hearing a lot of comments à la "well, biological women don't seem to mind as only a small number have spoken out against this".

I don't give this much weight at all, as when you look at what happened to JK Rowling, would you speak out if you were in their place?

They're in a very vulnerable position, as they rely on national organizations (that have often accepted trans women in women's sports) for certification, acceptance and even financial support.

They also often rely on corporations and especially of late corps have actually cancelled their support and relationships with people who've spoken out on topics like this one.

You clearly risk either losing the sponsorships you have and not getting any new ones.

Most amateur athletes (especially if they are women) aren't rich at all and rely on outside support to practise their sport.
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Old 06-23-2021, 05:32 AM
 
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So in other words, men can lift more weight than women? Who woulda guessed?
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Old 06-23-2021, 05:43 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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So in other words, men can lift more weight than women? Who woulda guessed?
This week's sign of the apocalypse.
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Old 06-23-2021, 05:48 AM
 
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If there are massive sweeps of medals, athletes will speak out.

I am very surprised the medical community hasn't voiced an opinion on this.
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