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Old 08-15-2019, 09:59 PM
 
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Southern culture is the problem. The other factor he mentioned was culture. The Scotch Irish culture was vastly inferior to other white cultures. Unfortunately for Kentucky and West Virginia.

Some white cultures are better than other white cultures. It’s only in the last century that white cultures have begun to converge.
Yes, Appalachia is in many ways as disadvantaged as inner-city black communities. In both cases, you have people who are outside mainstream American culture and who do not subscribe to mainstream norms or mores. There are certain cultural norms and behaviors which lead to success and the people in these areas I mentioned have never adopted them.
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Old 08-15-2019, 09:59 PM
 
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Lowest has nothing to do with quality, You basically said the food they desire. I guess some folks desire McDonalds every day because they can't afford anything else and it kills them.
When adjusting for cost of living the people living in Kentucky have extraordinarily large expendable incomes by global standards. Most can afford to eat what ever they want; they’re choosing sugary and salty foods. In Denmark a lot of those foods are banned or made unaffordable to the average person by the government, on purpose, in part because of universal healthcare. This is the problem with results oriented policy, it’s anti-freedom, anti-choice.
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Old 08-15-2019, 10:01 PM
 
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California has by far the highest poverty rate in the country. https://mises.org/wire/why-californi...poverty-rate-1
Actually, the standard poverty rate has California doing much better than Texas:

"For one, in the regular poverty measure, California ranks better than Texas, and leftists love to use the standard poverty rate to talk about how truly awful Texas and other red states are."
https://mises.org/wire/why-californi...poverty-rate-1

Pro-Democrat group says 9 of the 10 poorest states are Republican
https://www.politifact.com/rhode-isl...states-are-re/
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Old 08-15-2019, 10:02 PM
 
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The ‘Austrian Institute’?

Lol
The stat came from the Census Bureau.

Maybe we should laugh.
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Old 08-15-2019, 10:02 PM
 
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The ‘Austrian Institute’?

Lol
By any measure California has the highest poverty rate in the country. Here’s a left wing “fact checker” https://www.politifact.com/californi...overty-rate-w/
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Old 08-15-2019, 10:02 PM
 
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When adjusting for cost of living the people living in Kentucky have extraordinarily large expendable incomes by global standards. Most can afford to eat what ever they want; they’re choosing sugary and salty foods. In Denmark a lot of those foods are banned or made unaffordable to the average person by the government, on purpose, in part because of universal healthcare. This is the problem with results oriented policy, it’s anti-freedom, anti-choice.
Still waiting for a link that Denmark is not allowing their citizens to acquire foods they desire. You may be right. I have not been to Denmark. I have been to other European countries and their produce is far and away better then american produce but perhaps Denmark is different.
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Old 08-15-2019, 10:04 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Actually, the standard poverty rate has California doing much better than Texas:

"For one, in the regular poverty measure, California ranks better than Texas, and leftists love to use the standard poverty rate to talk about how truly awful Texas and other red states are."
https://mises.org/wire/why-californi...poverty-rate-1

Pro-Democrat group says 9 of the 10 poorest states are Republican
https://www.politifact.com/rhode-isl...states-are-re/
Cost of living matters. My 150k home would be two to four times higher in much of California.
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Old 08-15-2019, 10:04 PM
 
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If someone couldn't get a job in NYC, would the expectation be for them to move? Why are we funneling so much money to these states so these people can be coddled? If an industry dies in the rest of the country, the expectation is for them to get retrained and get a new job. "Benefitting" isn't even part of the conversation.
Maybe on an individual and locality level, but not on a general or state level. Everywhere has poverty so obviously you can't reduce it by everyone moving around.

I'm sure if you crunch all the numbers and all the factors, the US it getting as much or more out of KY and WV than is giving them.
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Old 08-15-2019, 10:06 PM
 
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When adjusting for cost of living the people living in Kentucky have extraordinarily large expendable incomes by global standards. Most can afford to eat what ever they want; they’re choosing sugary and salty foods. In Denmark a lot of those foods are banned or made unaffordable to the average person by the government, on purpose, in part because of universal healthcare. This is the problem with results oriented policy, it’s anti-freedom, anti-choice.
Is it? Or are food stamp recipients selling their food stamps for soda as a form of currency? This has been going on for a long time now in Appalachia.

"The “pop train” scheme is where food stamp or Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) recipients use their benefits to buy soda in bulk and then re-sell them for cash."

Food Stamps Are Tickets For Fraud on 'Pop Train'
https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/eric-sc...raud-pop-train

"...the federally funded ritual of trading cases of food-stamp Pepsi for packs of Kentucky’s Best cigarettes and good old hard currency..."

https://www.nationalreview.com/2013/...-d-williamson/
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Old 08-15-2019, 10:09 PM
 
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Still waiting for a link that Denmark is not allowing their citizens to acquire foods they desire. You may be right. I have not been to Denmark. I have been to other European countries and their produce is far and away better then american produce but perhaps Denmark is different.
You don’t know that european countries heavily control their food chains, portion sizes, types of foods available? This is common knowledge.
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