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Old 02-02-2022, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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The trend continues. The top 7 states affluent Americans are leaving most, are all Liberal. The reasons given are apolitical, but how to explain why ALL 7 are Liberal high-tax states

NJ, NY, MA, CT, MI, CA, IL, are the top 7 in lost residents.

Just a hunch, but I think the Republicans, & Independents who identify more with Pubs, are the first to leave the Liberal states. I say this because Florida's new voter registrations lean Republican, not Democrat. For the first time in a long time, Republicans now outnumber Democrats in Florida. Florida is a huge inbound state, so carries greater weight than say tiny Vermont.

I say "affluent" Americans because generally speaking, that is who uses Van Lines to move. Less affluent movers typically use their own vehicles, pull behind trailers, and rental trucks.

Who is moving is key, because affuent people pay more in taxes, & possess greater wealth. These 7 Lib states are losing enormous amounts of future taxes, & commerce...Billions worth. That leaves less affluent taxpayers behind to shoulder the tax burden. They will also lose Congressional seats.

For those remaining behind, they are certain to see more tax increases to offset these enormous losses.
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Old 02-02-2022, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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Yup, Nebraska, Kansas, Ohio and Louisiana are liberal states.

And Oregon, Vermont, Delaware, Maine and Rhode Island are ruby red states.
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Old 02-02-2022, 12:24 PM
 
Location: My house
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i moved out of NJ (a state that is so progressive, they can’t even figure out legal weed despite people voting Yes). 5 figure annual property taxes and a governor who wants to give illegal immigrants free college tuition shows that there will never be a plan to reduce the tax burden plus all the other taxes they hit you with and constantly raising tolls. it was beaten into my head that the state is a losing proposition and it was time to move on.

if you want a low cost of living, keep the red states red.
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Old 02-02-2022, 12:26 PM
 
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https://www.unitedvanlines.com/newsr...ers-study-2021

The trend continues. The top 7 states affluent Americans are leaving most, are all Liberal. The reasons given are apolitical, but how to explain why ALL 7 are Liberal high-tax states

NJ, NY, MA, CT, MI, CA, IL, are the top 7 in lost residents.

Just a hunch, but I think the Republicans, & Independents who identify more with Pubs, are the first to leave the Liberal states. I say this because Florida's new voter registrations lean Republican, not Democrat. For the first time in a long time, Republicans now outnumber Democrats in Florida. Florida is a huge inbound state, so carries greater weight than say tiny Vermont.

I say "affluent" Americans because generally speaking, that is who uses Van Lines to move. Less affluent movers typically use their own vehicles, pull behind trailers, and rental trucks.

Who is moving is key, because affuent people pay more in taxes, & possess greater wealth. These 7 Lib states are losing enormous amounts of future taxes, & commerce...Billions worth. That leaves less affluent taxpayers behind to shoulder the tax burden. They will also lose Congressional seats.

For those remaining behind, they are certain to see more tax increases to offset these enormous losses.
You got to hand it to them- liberals sure know how to create a great slum.
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Old 02-02-2022, 12:27 PM
 
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Blue voters are moving to red states. This mass migration could turn red states purple.
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Old 02-02-2022, 12:41 PM
 
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You'd be a fool to think those leaving blue states and moving to red states are going to vote anything but D. They will continue voting for the type of policies that they ran away from because...dumb?
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Old 02-02-2022, 12:42 PM
 
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Blue voters are moving to red states. This mass migration could turn red states purple.
I wouldn't count on it. Florida has people fleeing from blue states in droves and now they are a Republican majority. People leaving CA for TX are voting red. The list goes on.
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Old 02-02-2022, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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We left the Far-Left state of Washington mostly because I no longer trusted the state and local government to protect our property, speech, freedom of movement, etc. We save a little in taxes in Arizona versus Washington but even more on the cost of housing and really everything in general is a bit less costly here in Arizona but that wasn't the primary reason to move to Arizona.
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Old 02-02-2022, 01:01 PM
 
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Vermont is #1 per the linked article:
There are several blue states on the list

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Moving In
The top inbound states of 2021 were:

Vermont
South Dakota
South Carolina
West Virginia
Florida
Alabama
Tennessee
Oregon
Idaho
Rhode Island
The 1 thing in common with all of those states is the low populations in comparison to the states they leave. Correlation is people want space or land.
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Old 02-02-2022, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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We left the Far-Left state of Washington mostly because I no longer trusted the state and local government to protect our property, speech, freedom of movement, etc. We save a little in taxes in Arizona versus Washington but even more on the cost of housing and really everything in general is a bit less costly here in Arizona but that wasn't the primary reason to move to Arizona.
So then the next question is, when Arizona goes blue just like Washington state, where will you move to next?
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