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Old 06-25-2022, 01:42 PM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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Originally Posted by ditchoc View Post
What will this mean to conservative states in the future? There has already been some indication of businesses/company's moving its people out of states promoting conservative oppression. Long term, will this mean loss of population in some states? Will states loose seats in congress because of decreased population? Will the political landscape change when people realize their rights are being compressed into those put forth by religious institutions? Will the radical right continue to suppress freedom in America?
I doubt most businesses will have a knee-jerk reaction and go through the expense and time to relocate elsewhere. Seems most are either staying silent about it or are planning workarounds.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2022/06/...ivisive-arena/

Sure there may be people who leave to go to where they can easily kill their children, maybe just like there were probably those who'd left Dem cities/states that have extremely stiff gun laws. Not every single person will be happy with every single law made by the state or the fed government, it's just the way it is.

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Will increased birth rates of people of color, due to lack of abortion clinics, increase the blending of America?
Since most of those who are killed through abortion are black children, no doubt many already know that the black population could very well increase. Why is that a problem with you if the black population increases? Why do those on the left want the black population to decrease in the first place? Eugenics maybe?

 
Old 06-25-2022, 01:45 PM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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Abortion was not nationally banned

No one is taking away women’s rights! Nor was the motivation anywhere near that!

The 14th amendment is the right to privacy, they found it was unconstitutional to be there

All the Supreme Court did, was take another look and found it didn’t belong under the 14th amendment
they found that under the conditions of the 14th amendment, it was baseless and flawed, it should have never been there to begin with

It is now a state level issue based on the voters of each state if it is legal or not

Roe v Wade should have never been there to begin with

Both Democrats’ and Republicans should have seen this and fixed it…no one is taking away women’s rights

It should have never been there to begin with…
 
Old 06-25-2022, 01:46 PM
 
Location: California side of the Sierras
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Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould View Post
Yes, indeed.

An unfaithful wife is supposed to drink a concoction that "makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell."

But what the hell difference does it make if the Bible prescribes abortions or not, our nation is a nation of laws based on a Constitution not the Bible, and there is nothing in the Constitution that gives either the federal or the state government the right to make medical decisions for competent people.
Absolutely.
 
Old 06-25-2022, 01:49 PM
 
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None of this, however, means that RvW "dictated a medical procedure". It never dictated abortion, or any other medical procedure.
Definition of dictate (Entry 2 of 2)
1a: an authoritative rule, prescription, or injunction
 
Old 06-25-2022, 01:49 PM
 
Location: California side of the Sierras
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Originally Posted by cremebrulee View Post
Abortion was not nationally banned

No one is taking away women’s rights! Nor was the motivation anywhere near that!

The 14th amendment is the right to privacy, they found it was unconstitutional to be there

All the Supreme Court did, was take another look and found it didn’t belong under the 14th amendment
they found that under the conditions of the 14th amendment, it was baseless and flawed, it should have never been there to begin with

It is now a state level issue based on the voters of each state if it is legal or not

Roe v Wade should have never been there to begin with

Both Democrats’ and Republicans should have seen this and fixed it…no one is taking away women’s rights

It should have never been there to begin with…
13 states already have, and 13 more are in the process.
 
Old 06-25-2022, 01:50 PM
 
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The fact so many people are upset about this who this decision will never impact makes me laugh. I just sit back and laugh at these morons
Yeah, how about all those pro-life activists that agitated against abortion even though they weren’t personally affected. Are they “morons” too?
 
Old 06-25-2022, 01:52 PM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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IF they can't also feel emotional pain, then that's correct. That's one of, if not the, benchmark for personhood in a morally relevant sense.

A self-aware w/o capacity to feel pain (emotional and physical) = a sci-fi type robot. If the entity can't feel pain, even with intelligence, then it's death can never be painful (even emotionally but physically too) - at least for that person. Others may have a very strong interest in keeping them alive, though.



If they cannot feel emotional pain either, then it cannot matter to them if they live or die. To others, yes, I admit that they do have great (if incomplete) say-so about that person's personhood. But isn't that what pro-choice allowed anyway?
Ahh okay. You not only want born people who feel no physical pain (congenital insensitivity to pain) to be killed, you also want born people who feel no emotional pain (Alexithymia) to be killed as well. All because you believe those people aren't people, and according to you they won't feel it or care if you kill them. wow. there are no words...
 
Old 06-25-2022, 01:54 PM
 
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Are you prepared to pitch in to take care of all these extra babies? Taxes will go up to cover a host of welfare programs.

Do we have enough baby formula for all these new babies? I wonder.
Maybe they should just put them all in state-run orphanages à la Ceausescu? That worked out well. Not!!!
 
Old 06-25-2022, 01:55 PM
 
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I guess many wish SCOTUS would have not ruled the legal way. There is NO constitutional right to abortion period. The Constitution says that all rights not specifically given to the federal government belong to the states. They can't violate the Constitution just because you don't like it. If you don't like it, change it legally.
 
Old 06-25-2022, 01:55 PM
 
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And . . . there it is. Thomas wrote a concurring opinion that contraception, same sex relationships and same sex marriage should be reconsidered.

As ALL of us who are paying attention, predicted.
Who knows? Maybe interracial marriage will be outlawed and Thomas will have to get a divorce. Sad …
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