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Old 10-14-2008, 06:40 AM
 
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What can you do for the more than 50% of filers of personal bankruptcy who were driven to that by medical costs? Can you heal them without bankrupting them? Or would your solution be just let them die so they won't be counted as 'poor'?
Obviously, they shouldn't have gotten cancer in the first place. Duh!
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Old 10-14-2008, 06:47 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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It would get really interesting if to see someone that had been speculating in housing and fancy market items to sudenly get sick and be told by a surgeon that they need an operation. That will be 50 grand in advance please.
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Old 10-14-2008, 06:50 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Obviously, they shouldn't have gotten cancer in the first place. Duh!


So true! After all, there's nations that need a buildin' and corporate/bank CEOs whose malfeasance requires government $$$$$.help.

How DARE mere citizens get sick through no fault of their own and expect to live?
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Old 10-14-2008, 07:03 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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How dare businesses and economies get sick and expect to get government help to stay alive. The economic purists seem more reluctant to abandon their would be peers than they would the poor.

When the speculators make a bet with borrowed money and loose they still owe the money. Ask any loanshark outside a casino. Same applies to a money center bank.
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Old 10-14-2008, 07:03 AM
 
Location: Wilmington, NC
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perhaps these people should have medical insurance. then they wouldn't go bankrupt from medical expenses. I know lottery tickets and 40's are more important than health insurance though.

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So true! After all, there's nations that need a buildin' and corporate/bank CEOs whose malfeasance requires government $$$$$.help.

How DARE mere citizens get sick through no fault of their own and expect to live?
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Old 10-14-2008, 07:05 AM
 
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perhaps these people should have medical insurance. then they wouldn't go bankrupt from medical expenses. I know lottery tickets and 40's are more important than health insurance though.
Didn't you say earlier in the thread that you have no health insurance? Talk about hypocritical! Guess what, if you get sick, you'll be poor very quickly.
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Old 10-14-2008, 07:10 AM
 
Location: Wilmington, NC
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I have private health insurance now. not really that expensive either. about $150 a month. but if I got sick, I would have died if I couldn't afford care. so be it. you think I'm f-ing scared? the poor rip through $150 a month in smokes and beer.

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Didn't you say earlier in the thread that you have no health insurance? Talk about hypocritical! Guess what, if you get sick, you'll be poor very quickly.
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Old 10-14-2008, 07:40 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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How dare businesses and economies get sick and expect to get government help to stay alive. The economic purists seem more reluctant to abandon their would be peers than they would the poor.

When the speculators make a bet with borrowed money and loose they still owe the money. Ask any loanshark outside a casino. Same applies to a money center bank.


Those businesses didn't get sick, they were murdered by greed and arrogance. Unlike the diseases suffered by many people, the sickness of the businesses was 100% preventable.
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Old 10-14-2008, 07:42 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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perhaps these people should have medical insurance. then they wouldn't go bankrupt from medical expenses. I know lottery tickets and 40's are more important than health insurance though.


If you took the time to learn some facts you'd learn that the majority of those bankrupted by medical bills had insurance.

But the facts might interfere with smug, self-satisfied, little remarks, right?

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Old 10-14-2008, 07:58 AM
 
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I have private health insurance now. not really that expensive either. about $150 a month. but if I got sick, I would have died if I couldn't afford care. so be it. you think I'm f-ing scared? the poor rip through $150 a month in smokes and beer.
So you got insurance recently then? So before you got insurance within the last month or so, you just would have sucked it up and died rather than go bankrupt out of principle? Is that what you are really saying? Sure you would have.

Sorry buddy, but you can't buy very good coverage for $150/month. The plan (BBBS) my company provides is about $375/month for an idividual and $900/month for a family plan. That is buying the coverage as a group, resulting in a nice discount. I am very lucky to work at a wonderful company that provides awesome coverage. With the plan you have, I'm guessing if you get really sick, you are up poopy creek without a paddle and guess what, you'll be dirt poor. Once that happens, people can stand back and point fingers at you and tell you that you should have got a better job so that you could afford better coverage.
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