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Old 01-07-2009, 11:00 PM
 
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You know I have a point of view more in line with the right on this... I can't however continue to have this continual nagging at me that says something much much deeper and more disturbing is going on here. Our country is polarizing and there is something to be said in military studies for divide and conquer and how effective it is.
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Old 01-07-2009, 11:02 PM
 
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Classic right wing, hate monger reaction. When victims of oppression fight back it's terrorism. Orwell would be proud. They should burn now these monuments to stupidity and hatred.


"Classic Liberal reaction - "It's not a Hate Crime because I agree with it"

Orwell would be proud of you."

Exactly correct. Since you blindly agree with all things liberal, this hate crime is not really a hate crime because the perpetrators of the hate crime claim to be victims of the people they committed the hate crime against. Classic liberal M.O.
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Old 01-07-2009, 11:09 PM
 
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Remember this fine educator?
FOXNews.com - Student Sues 'Anti-Christian' Teacher Over Remarks in Class - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News
Chad Farnan, a 16-year-old sophomore, says the teacher, James Corbett, told his students that “Jesus glasses” obscure the truth and suggested that Christians are more likely than other people to commit rape and murder.
Farnan recorded his teacher telling students in class: “What country has the highest murder rate? The South! What part of the country has the highest rape rate? The South! What part of the country has the highest rate of church attendance? The South!” Farnan said he took the tape recorder to class to supplement his class notes.

Great post sailordave! I'd love to see some justice in this case.
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Old 01-07-2009, 11:16 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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For example:
1. Orientation usually includes a diversity acceptance seminar, which is different than tolerance. The law says you have to tolerate everyone, and committ no crimes against them. However, the university says you MUST accept them no matter what (a liberal view) whether or not your beliefs go along with it, or you are not welcome.
Huh? I never heard of such a seminar... and even if that was the case, do you have a problem with being accepting of everyone? I'm not sure how somebody could find an issue with instilling those values.

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2. Often, the university has a "theme" of global warming and requires students to complete assignments in certain courses on it. You MAY NOT take the view that it does not exist or humans are not at fault, otherwise you fail.
Where did you hear this? We were never forced to write on global warming, and any politically-charged essay topics were left open - we were allowed to choose the issue and form our own hypothesis. Do you have any evidence that something like this has happened?

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3. Most of the speeches and events are left leaning.
I guess that depends on where you attend college, and what type of college it is. I HIGHLY doubt that places like Liberty University, Arkansas Baptist College and BYU have too many left-leaning events.

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4. Student liberals outnumber conservatives on my campus 7-1. (And I go to school in the South.)
Not much you can do about that, and I don't think the college administration could do much either... maybe there's just a higher percentage of liberals in college?

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5. 75% of professors are left leaning. In fact the only ones I've had who weren't lefties were either in military science or criminal justice (the former cops) courses.
See above.

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6. In subjective graded courses with lefty professors, you either suck up to them or take the lower grade. Objective courses are not nearly as bad.
All "subjective graded courses" are at the mercy of their professor's opinions - whether it's their political leanings, views on gender/sex, religion, even where and how they grew up. If you find a professor is being blatantly unfair and biased, you should file a complaint with the board.
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Old 01-07-2009, 11:19 PM
 
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So does that mean gays should not seek approval in a state that won't accept them?
They can seek it, but I'm sure they wouldn't be surprised if a gay marriage ban passed in Alabama... Prop 8, however, was a huge shock to most of us (Californians).
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Old 01-07-2009, 11:27 PM
 
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http://www.dof.ca.gov/HTML/DEMOGRAP/...ents/SF4CA.pdf

Family households: 7,985,489 69.4%
Nonfamily households: 3,526,531 30.6%


What was the outcome % of the vote for prop 8?
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Old 01-07-2009, 11:33 PM
 
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So does that mean gays should not seek approval in a state that won't accept them?
Well for starters I believe gays are seeking to NOT be discriminated against because of their inherent homosexual orientation and to have the same rights as heterosexuals. Not so much "approval", as there will undoubtedly always be someone who doesn't know, and doesn't want to know, what sexual orientation is and doesn't "approve" of homosexuality.

And for seconds, a far-right-winged conservative having their views challenged a little by what they perceive as far-left views in Universities (probably just to the right of centre ) is hardly the same thing as not being "accepted" or accorded the same rights because of your sexual orientation.
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Old 01-07-2009, 11:38 PM
 
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So does that mean gays should not seek approval in a state that won't accept them?
It's a shame that gays should even have to think about seeking "approval" from all of the non-gays.
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Old 01-07-2009, 11:40 PM
 
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http://www.dof.ca.gov/HTML/DEMOGRAP/...ents/SF4CA.pdf

Family households: 7,985,489 69.4%
Nonfamily households: 3,526,531 30.6%


What was the outcome % of the vote for prop 8?
The vote for Prop. 8 was 52-48.

What's the point you're trying to make?
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Old 01-07-2009, 11:45 PM
 
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"Classic Liberal reaction - "It's not a Hate Crime because I agree with it"

Orwell would be proud of you."

Exactly correct. Since you blindly agree with all things liberal, this hate crime is not really a hate crime because the perpetrators of the hate crime claim to be victims of the people they committed the hate crime against. Classic liberal M.O.
Good grief you Americans seem to love to label each other as left and right, conservative and liberal, red and blue etc and then assign a whole skew of beliefs and behaviour to each. Are there any up and down people? Round or square? Lumpy or smooth?
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