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Old 05-29-2009, 03:02 PM
 
Location: America's heartland
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Nor is it Hispanics fault that most undocumented immigrants are Hispanic. That fact doesn't give law enforcement or anyone else the right to run rough shod over the rights of Hispanics who are here legally.



Illegal immigration has never been a problem for me, personally, or anyone else I know.

As far as it being cause by a liberal, lackadaisical attitude, that's crap. The reason there are so many undocumented immigrants here is capitalism, plain and simple. They keep labor costs down and employers like that. Employers contribute to political campaigns. Politicians decline to act on the matter.

The fact remains, being a member of La Raza should not disqualify Sotomayor any more than being a member of the NAACP disqualified Thurgood Marshall.
How about someone who is a member of the K.K.K.? Should being a Klansman not be a reason to disqualify a potential associate judge?
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Old 05-29-2009, 03:09 PM
 
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How about someone who is a member of the K.K.K.? Should being a Klansman not be a reason to disqualify a potential associate judge?
The Klan is a white supremacist group with a history of assault, arson and murder, so yes, membership in the Klan would be a reason to disqualify a potential SC justice.

La Raza Unida is a civil rights group, not a supremacy organization.
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Old 05-29-2009, 03:46 PM
 
Location: America's heartland
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The Klan is a white supremacist group with a history of assault, arson and murder, so yes, membership in the Klan would be a reason to disqualify a potential SC justice.

La Raza Unida is a civil rights group, not a supremacy organization.
Then you are being hypocritical.

La Raza, NAACP, Black Panthers, and K.K.K. are all radical extremist organizations. Some of these movements advocate more violence than others but all of these breed racism.

If one is dangerous, so are the others.
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Old 05-29-2009, 03:48 PM
 
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Then you are being hypocritical.

La Raza, NAACP, Black Panthers, and K.K.K. are all radical extremist organizations. Some of these movements advocate more violence than others but all of these breed racism.

If one is dangerous, so are the others.
How many lynchings has La Raza been responsible for? Arson? Murder of children? What about the NAACP?

You're being ridiculous.

P.S. You left out the AARP.
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Old 05-29-2009, 04:04 PM
 
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Then you are being hypocritical.

La Raza, NAACP, Black Panthers, and K.K.K. are all radical extremist organizations. Some of these movements advocate more violence than others but all of these breed racism.

If one is dangerous, so are the others.
That's ridiculous. There is no logic contained in your argument.

First, you have to show that each organization advocates any violence.

Then, you have to explain why organizations that don't advocate violence but advocate activities to ensure the success and progress and equality of their members are advanced are racist.

Against the backdrop that just about every group that has ever emigrated to the United States has formed an organization to advance their interests. The Irish, the Polish, the Germans, the Dutch. Even Thomas Jefferson's descendants have an organization to advance their interests.

Should all these organizations be dissolved?
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Old 05-29-2009, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Lower Paxton, PA
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Well, obviously, if she turns out to be pro-life, some republicans would vote for her (personal and/or political reasons) and some liberals won't for the same reasons.

But while would Obama choose a pro-life justice replacing a liberal justice? Obama/Biden are very pro-choice.

but you know, he nominated dudes who didn't pay taxes, so maybe if she is pro-life, he didn't know.
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Old 05-29-2009, 06:03 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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There has never been an immigrant group who has not had their own organization to provide for their assistance and protection. Why should Hisapanics be any different? If only people learned more history then much of their unnatural fear would be alliviated.
This is true. There are the Polish Falcons, the Turners for the Germans, many, the Ancient Order of Hibernians for the Irish, the Sons of Norway, and many, many other groups.
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Old 05-29-2009, 11:44 PM
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Location: Wisconsin
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Then you are being hypocritical.

La Raza, NAACP, Black Panthers, and K.K.K. are all radical extremist organizations. Some of these movements advocate more violence than others but all of these breed racism.

If one is dangerous, so are the others.
WOW. If you're that frightened because a group of the same ethnic group get together and do things to advance their own interest, then Wall Street and the U.S. Senate should scare you to death.
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Old 05-30-2009, 05:05 AM
 
Location: Reading, PA
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La Raza, NAACP, Black Panthers, and K.K.K. are all radical extremist organizations. Some of these movements advocate more violence than others but all of these breed racism.
As I read over threads lately, I have come to the conclusion that one of the biggest issues between the the far right and the rest of us is language. The far right seems to use language in a way that, frankly, comes across hysterical about everything they don't believe. This is an example: to lump those four groups together and try to make the case that are "all radical extremist organizations" compells me to ask how in the world yikesamillion is defining "radical" and "extremist". I can only think that he considers anyone who doesn't live on the far right with him as "radical" and "extremist".
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Old 05-30-2009, 05:13 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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Speculation is that she is pro-life, no one knows for sure since she has not ruled from the bench on the topic. If true, will people switch sides on abortion or their support?
It doesn't matter to me. I think she will rule correctly on the law, not her views.
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