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The Obama administration isn't very good at keeping the secret that it's planning on ditching the public option. If anyone wants a halfway decent health care reform bill as opposed to a bailout for the insurance industry sign this petition. Change We Can Believe In
Right now I am very upset with Obama's policies, especially with health care, and unlike the teabaggers and the birthers and the screamers, I've got every right to be. I worked very hard to get Obama elected, unlike the right-wingers that have been fighting him and spreading misinformation about him from day one. I am a single payer advocate, just as Obama was in 2003. I'm willing to settle for health care reform with a strong public option, but nothing less. Health care reform without a public option is counter-productive in my opinion. It's nothing more than a bailout for health insurance companies. Obama bailed out the banking industry, helping the banking industry and its lobbyists. He still has defense contractors in Iraq and Afghanistan, benefiting the defense industry and its lobbyists. If he drops the public option from health care reform, it will just benefit the health insurance industry and its lobbyists. Where’s the change that he promised? He needs to take the lobbyists and the perpetuators of the status quo on head first instead of cutting deals with them, breaking his promises to the voters that elected him. If any of you really want change, sign this petition and let Obama know that he can't take your support for granted.
As for the rightwing teabaggers that are about to write a bunch of bull**** responses, I don't give a damn what you are about to write and am going to ignore you, so if your looking for attention go post on another thread.
Nah, I don't agree. Too early to make a call imo. Don't let the media sway you. They make money by selling controversy and conflict, especially inner political conflict. They did the same thing during the Democratic race, portrayed the party as deeply divided and on the verge of ruin. Everybody was running around saying the DNC had imploded....yea whatever.
The Obama administration isn't very good at keeping the secret that it's planning on ditching the public option. If anyone wants a halfway decent health care reform bill as opposed to a bailout for the insurance industry sign this petition. Change We Can Believe In
Right now I am very upset with Obama's policies, especially with health care, and unlike the teabaggers and the birthers and the screamers, I've got every right to be. I worked very hard to get Obama elected, unlike the right-wingers that have been fighting him and spreading misinformation about him from day one. I am a single payer advocate, just as Obama was in 2003. I'm willing to settle for health care reform with a strong public option, but nothing less. Health care reform without a public option is counter-productive in my opinion. It's nothing more than a bailout for health insurance companies. Obama bailed out the banking industry, helping the banking industry and its lobbyists. He still has defense contractors in Iraq and Afghanistan, benefiting the defense industry and its lobbyists. If he drops the public option from health care reform, it will just benefit the health insurance industry and its lobbyists. Where’s the change that he promised? He needs to take the lobbyists and the perpetuators of the status quo on head first instead of cutting deals with them, breaking his promises to the voters that elected him. If any of you really want change, sign this petition and let Obama know that he can't take your support for granted.
As for the rightwing teabaggers that are about to write a bunch of bull**** responses, I don't give a damn what you are about to write and am going to ignore you, so if your looking for attention go post on another thread.
Actually all this diversion Glenn Beck is providing is very helpful -- lawmakers can get on with the business at hand without stupid distractions.
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The Obama administration isn't very good at keeping the secret that it's planning on ditching the public option. If anyone wants a halfway decent health care reform bill as opposed to a bailout for the insurance industry sign this petition. Change We Can Believe In
Right now I am very upset with Obama's policies, especially with health care, and unlike the teabaggers and the birthers and the screamers, I've got every right to be. I worked very hard to get Obama elected, unlike the right-wingers that have been fighting him and spreading misinformation about him from day one. I am a single payer advocate, just as Obama was in 2003. I'm willing to settle for health care reform with a strong public option, but nothing less. Health care reform without a public option is counter-productive in my opinion. It's nothing more than a bailout for health insurance companies. Obama bailed out the banking industry, helping the banking industry and its lobbyists. He still has defense contractors in Iraq and Afghanistan, benefiting the defense industry and its lobbyists. If he drops the public option from health care reform, it will just benefit the health insurance industry and its lobbyists. Where’s the change that he promised? He needs to take the lobbyists and the perpetuators of the status quo on head first instead of cutting deals with them, breaking his promises to the voters that elected him. If any of you really want change, sign this petition and let Obama know that he can't take your support for granted.
As for the rightwing teabaggers that are about to write a bunch of bull**** responses, I don't give a damn what you are about to write and am going to ignore you, so if your looking for attention go post on another thread.
To the OP...don't cry..the Supreme Leader knows what he is doing...right??? So even if he finally signs a bill that is 3 pages long doing absolutely nothing to change anything coz thats all he can get the loonie dems to agree on...he'll think of something..remember..he is just so smart..unlike that Bush guy...yes we can...yes we can...zombies..zombies
Unfortunately, the democrats do not have a good history of being organized and united in passing important legislation. Even though I supported many democrats in the last election, do not be surprised if we see the tide turn in 2010.
It is hard to support or vote for any candidate (whether democrat or republican) that continues to support the monopoly that the pharmaceutical companies have over the American people. I thought we lived in a global economy. Or is it, global for some things and not for others.
It is sad.
But Obama has a stellar record of pushing through what he wants done. He's not a tool of the ins cos or Big Pharma.
The problem is having to negotiate in order to get the thing through.
Assuming your statement above is true (I don't believe it is), Members of Congress have long standing relationships with the Insurance Companies and the Pharmaceutical Companies - and they are the ones who have to pass the legislation. So, regardless of Obama's standing - without the Congress - Obama is DOA.
Assuming your statement above is true (I don't believe it is), Members of Congress have long standing relationships with the Insurance Companies and the Pharmaceutical Companies - and they are the ones who have to pass the legislation. So, regardless of Obama's standing - without the Congress - Obama is DOA.
Long standing is correct, at least 60 years of great congressional insurance coverage payed for by the taxpayer, damn socialist! Lets see, I believe hospitals were willing to negotiate and put forth cash on the table and the pharmaceutical companies put forth 80 billion dollars I believe. What did the health delivery insurance companies put on the table? Zelch----zero. I wonder why? Could it be they knew the cat was in the bag? Of course they did.
Assuming your statement above is true (I don't believe it is), Members of Congress have long standing relationships with the Insurance Companies and the Pharmaceutical Companies - and they are the ones who have to pass the legislation. So, regardless of Obama's standing - without the Congress - Obama is DOA.
well, I disagree. He's well smart enough to have assessed the playing field long before he started off on this crusade. I dont think any opposition from any of these congresspeople, for whatever reason they give or dont give, would be a surprise to him, they all know what % are objecting and what's necessary to persuade each.... politics ya know.
Why would you think he's a tool of the ins cos/pharma?
well, I disagree. He's well smart enough to have assessed the playing field long before he started off on this crusade. I dont think any opposition from any of these congresspeople, for whatever reason they give or dont give, would be a surprise to him, they all know what % are objecting and what's necessary to persuade each.... politics ya know.
Why would you think he's a tool of the ins cos/pharma?
Robert Reich's Blog: How the White House's Deal With Big Pharma Undermines Democracy (http://robertreich.blogspot.com/2009/08/white-houses-deal-with-big-pharma.html - broken link)
All true, but why do you critisize the "tea baggers"? They are sick of the corporate pandering and lobbyists as well... If you were not so angry you would see they are saying some of the same things you are.
Ok I'll concede that point. I should have said town hall screamers instead of teabaggers. Although I'm against most of what the teabaggers represent, I'm completely opposed to politicans spending money just to appease the corporate fat cats and lobbyists that funnel money into their campaigns. While I'm what the right would call a tax and spend liberal, I'm not for the goverment spending working people's tax money just to make the rich richer and I think that the govermnent should tax and spend as opposed to borrow and spend as well.
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