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Old 03-22-2010, 08:14 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Its folks like this that are the reason that America spends so much money on healthcare in the first place.

Maybe if fatso would put down the Pork Rinds, Doritos and Twinkies then healthcare reform would be less costly.
Uh-huh;

http://perfunction.typepad.com/perfunction/images/2008/09/29/michael_moore_seriously_fat.jpg (broken link)
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Old 03-22-2010, 08:16 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Uh-huh;
If fat a** can pay for his own insurance, then let him be fat.

I have a feeling, the woman previously posted, is probably on medicare, or medicaid. At least Moore pays his own way.
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Old 03-22-2010, 09:42 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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I guess you conveniently forget about the Patriot Act, Domestic Spying, torture, DARPA, and Main Core.

Except for all that, you mean...right?


Which of them were opposed by two of three voters yet enacted anyway?
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Old 03-22-2010, 10:31 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Of course they did not. No one said they did. However due to WWII the government was able to open its coffers at previously unprecedented amounts. This stimulus filtered directly to the people giving them jobs and wages. Without this stimulus the depression would have lasted a lot longer. To again summarize direct government action aided the economy. Oh and sigh back at you.
That is incorrect. How did it aid the economy when you couldn't buy anything because of lack of resources as well as less disposable income? You couldn't buy a house, cars or appliances. Many items that you could buy were rationed . The products that people could purchase were of lower quality. The money that normally went to the production of items for household use was now being spent on the military. The War was paid for by taxing the private sector.

The private sector was also hurt by the governments purchase of steel. Less steel to go around meant prices went up thus making it harder, for the private sector businesses that use steel, to compete in the world wide market.

The economy didn't get better until after the war ended, in 1946.

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Old 03-23-2010, 12:46 AM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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I don't hate government I want my government to listen to me and do what we [I] ask of them when we [I] are the ones electing them so once again you have it wrong. This is a Republic not a Socialist Democracy people seemed to have forgotten that its time they get reminded.
There it is in bold. The fundamental flaw in your argument. It isn't all about you. A minority of Democrats actually have the income and/or inherited wealth to espouse fiscally conservative measures. Obama however represents mainly the broader spectrum of the Democratic ideal. That it would rub some the wrong way is a given. What I don't get is the shock and awe over the fact that Obama is behaving like a Democrat. Do you buy a Rotweiller and expect it to use a litter box? Obama is listening to those who elected him... the majority of them. Believe it or not there is support of UHC on American soil. And, just so you know, America has always been in the main more Socialist than not. The complete absence of any Socialism whatsoever is not a place you could survive in. Nor would you want to.

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Old 03-23-2010, 12:49 AM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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I am not going anywhere I am waiting for the 3rd American Revolution to happen. Part of it will happen in November when we elect Tea Party people who will actually listen to the people and enact our will not some socialist commie agenda.
L O L

good one.
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Old 03-23-2010, 01:15 AM
 
Location: The Great State of Texas, Finally!
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Well considering what some of the tea party demonstrators were shouting at congressmen here in DC this weekend. I would consider at least that group a very racist lot. There were shouts of sp*c, f*g and the like. Very adult behavior from a group of people opposed to a certain government action. I may not agree with someone however degenerating to fourth grade shouting tantrums when addressing government officials seems a bit out of sorts to me.
Please provide a link to the audio/video documenting these racist comments and slurs I keep hearing of. To date, I have NOT seen one video or heard any audio of this.
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Old 03-23-2010, 05:17 AM
 
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It's been widely noted...even by Congressional Republicans...

Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa), a leading voice in the tea party movement, said Sunday that protesters’ recent use of racial and homophobic slurs toward Members of Congress was no big deal.

King’s remarks come a day after tea party protesters spat on Rep. Emanuel Cleaver (D-Mo.) and shouted a racial slur at Rep. John Lewis (D-Ga.); both are African-American. A protester also shouted a sexual slur at Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.), who is openly gay.


Roll Call

"We the people" don't seem to have much class. And that's hardly all they lack...
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Old 03-23-2010, 07:08 AM
 
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The more that I look at the thread title, the more I agree with it.

From 1776-2010, America didn't insure the medical care of its citizen. That America is dead and may it rest in peace.
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Old 03-23-2010, 08:27 AM
 
Location: Washington, DC
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That is incorrect. How did it aid the economy when you couldn't buy anything because of lack of resources as well as less disposable income? You couldn't buy a house, cars or appliances. Many items that you could buy were rationed . The products that people could purchase were of lower quality. The money that normally went to the production of items for household use was now being spent on the military. The War was paid for by taxing the private sector.

The private sector was also hurt by the governments purchase of steel. Less steel to go around meant prices went up thus making it harder, for the private sector businesses that use steel, to compete in the world wide market.

The economy didn't get better until after the war ended, in 1946.

LOL ok..... And how does any of this refute what I previously posted? Yes the economy was totally geared to the war effort. Yes there was rationing. Yes consumer goods produced during that era were of inferior quality.

The fact that you ignore however is the jobs that were generated. Pre WWII the country was mired in a deep depression with unemployment at 25%. Banks and businesses were closing on a daily basis and shanty towns lined the river fronts of all the major cities in the country. WWII took all of the young unemployed men and sent them to the front. Those that remained the older men beyond draft age, and women were put to work in factories to produce goods for the war effort. These very factories pre WWII were nearly all half shuttered due to a lack of consumer demand. Now after a short retooling they were at full capacity rolling out jeeps, tanks, supply ships, and tankers at the fastest clip possible.

Regardless of the products available to the consumer at the time, they now had money in their pockets. The shanty towns began to dwindle and disappear and food was now far more readily available. Life was indeed better for the average Joe.

After the war because of a combination of factors, (decimation of the manufacturing centers of every other major industrialized nation, and the fact that America’s manufacturing plants were at full production levels during the war placing them in the unique position to now provide to the consumers of the nation and world) the nations economy boomed.

If the Japanese had not bombed Pearl Harbor and we had not entered the War this development would have never happened. The huge infusion of cash by the government through the aide of war bonds would have never occurred. Factories would have remained half shuttered and the ranks of the unemployed would have remained. A massive government infusion created this boom. WWII and our involvement as a nation facilitated this.
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