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Old 11-14-2012, 06:05 PM
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Location: Tall Building down by the river
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Let's be clear TV. Do you think he will be the head coach next year?

Yes because of the article that came out today.
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Old 11-14-2012, 06:46 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Yes because of the article that came out today.
So does that also mean you don't think any coaches will be fired since the article didn't say they would be?
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Old 11-14-2012, 06:48 PM
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So does that also mean you don't think any coaches will be fired since the article didn't say they would be?

Yup, I think Jeffery Lurie is playing mind games with the city of Philadelphia.
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:00 PM
 
Location: The Communist State of NJ
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Somebody pass me the Tylenol.
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:57 PM
 
Location: Born & Raised DC > Carolinas > Seattle > Denver
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my goodness....

i'm a huge redskins fan, and we suck (on defense)

but if you think Andy Reid will be back next season, you're crazy....
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Old 11-14-2012, 09:00 PM
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my goodness....

i'm a huge redskins fan, and we suck (on defense)

but if you think Andy Reid will be back next season, you're crazy....


If it's someone that really needs to be fired that would the skins defensive coordinator, Jim Haslett. Seems like all he does is stand on the sideline and look crazy while the opposing team is running up and down the field. lol
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Old 11-15-2012, 07:01 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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As a Cowboys fan, I want the Eagles to fire ANDY REID.. they should have done it YEARs ago!
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Old 11-15-2012, 07:55 AM
 
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Assessing Kolb, Vick, and Foles...

Why you can judge Vick on Foles' performance

Put simply, both Kolb and Foles were/are guided by a simple notion: Make a quick assessment of what the defense is presenting and get the ball out. Vick, by comparison, wanted to hold the ball more often and try to find a play downfield.

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When Kolb played, on a per-play basis, he was hit about half as often as Vick was during the same season. But, at the same time, the offense was much more dynamic when Vick played that year.

Back then, Vick was making a conscious calculation: to hold the ball longer and to endure more punishment in exchange for more big plays and more points. Everyone wondered about the long-term, but it was a short-term success and it was undeniable. But as defenses adjusted - and, maybe, as the accumulation of physical punishment took its toll - Vick's decision made less sense.

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This season, Vick averaged holding the ball 3.10 seconds before throwing, second highest in the NFL (after being the highest in 2011; God bless Seahawks rookie Russell Wilson). In his first game, Foles held it 2.74 seconds, a much more conventional number. Vick was under pressure 42.9 percent of the time this season. Foles, in that one game, 32.4 percent - and with much better accuracy.



In other words, Foles may make the offensive line look better because the decision making will be faster. This seems to fit more of what Reid wants - short to medium passes, West Coast offense - quick reads, quick throws. Vick's thinking seems to counter Reid's basic plan.
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Old 11-15-2012, 08:38 AM
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Assessing Kolb, Vick, and Foles...

Why you can judge Vick on Foles' performance

Put simply, both Kolb and Foles were/are guided by a simple notion: Make a quick assessment of what the defense is presenting and get the ball out. Vick, by comparison, wanted to hold the ball more often and try to find a play downfield.

...
When Kolb played, on a per-play basis, he was hit about half as often as Vick was during the same season. But, at the same time, the offense was much more dynamic when Vick played that year.

Back then, Vick was making a conscious calculation: to hold the ball longer and to endure more punishment in exchange for more big plays and more points. Everyone wondered about the long-term, but it was a short-term success and it was undeniable. But as defenses adjusted - and, maybe, as the accumulation of physical punishment took its toll - Vick's decision made less sense.

...
This season, Vick averaged holding the ball 3.10 seconds before throwing, second highest in the NFL (after being the highest in 2011; God bless Seahawks rookie Russell Wilson). In his first game, Foles held it 2.74 seconds, a much more conventional number. Vick was under pressure 42.9 percent of the time this season. Foles, in that one game, 32.4 percent - and with much better accuracy.



In other words, Foles may make the offensive line look better because the decision making will be faster. This seems to fit more of what Reid wants - short to medium passes, West Coast offense - quick reads, quick throws. Vick's thinking seems to counter Reid's basic plan.

Well before you put him in the Hall of Fame, let's see what Foles does as the starter on Sunday. Again he played in a game when he didn't start and was in the cleanup role. I always said that when a QB starts for the FIRST TIME it is completely different than coming in off the sidelines to take over.

Vick did the same thing and played much better when he didn't have the starter label. But once he got the label things were never the same because expectations were higher.
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Old 11-15-2012, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Lewes, Delaware
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Originally Posted by DRob4JC View Post
Assessing Kolb, Vick, and Foles...

Why you can judge Vick on Foles' performance

Put simply, both Kolb and Foles were/are guided by a simple notion: Make a quick assessment of what the defense is presenting and get the ball out. Vick, by comparison, wanted to hold the ball more often and try to find a play downfield.

...
When Kolb played, on a per-play basis, he was hit about half as often as Vick was during the same season. But, at the same time, the offense was much more dynamic when Vick played that year.

Back then, Vick was making a conscious calculation: to hold the ball longer and to endure more punishment in exchange for more big plays and more points. Everyone wondered about the long-term, but it was a short-term success and it was undeniable. But as defenses adjusted - and, maybe, as the accumulation of physical punishment took its toll - Vick's decision made less sense.

...
This season, Vick averaged holding the ball 3.10 seconds before throwing, second highest in the NFL (after being the highest in 2011; God bless Seahawks rookie Russell Wilson). In his first game, Foles held it 2.74 seconds, a much more conventional number. Vick was under pressure 42.9 percent of the time this season. Foles, in that one game, 32.4 percent - and with much better accuracy.



In other words, Foles may make the offensive line look better because the decision making will be faster. This seems to fit more of what Reid wants - short to medium passes, West Coast offense - quick reads, quick throws. Vick's thinking seems to counter Reid's basic plan.

That's what you would think, but why did Reid give so much to Vick? Does anyone remember this offense at its best, it was Brian Westbrook catching balls in the flat on screens, with receivers getting open on posts for McNabb.

This new style of offense has completely gone away from what was successful in the past and it has been a complete mess this entire year. 9 games in and the offense still hasn't looked good, this is Reid's team and entirely his fault. He made a 5'11" Vick the QB, he drafted midget wide receivers and his only good O lineman he didn't draft. Btw his last 4 or 5 drafts have really been bad. I like Lesean McCoy as much as anyone but Reid refuses to run the ball or throw it to him, maybe he can't catch the the ball I don't know but Lesean is to good of a running back to get wasted like this.

Next year the Eagles as of now are 20 million over the cap which will be much lower when Reid dumps Vick after the Super Bowl for 4 million bucks, Nnamdi is scheduled to make 15 million next year as well, he won't get it either but this year the Eagles are 18 million under the cap and I don't remember who was a free agent but being 18 million under the cap while they are sporting a 3-6 record which should be 2-7 isn't all that spectacular.

As for Nick Foles, I really hope he works out cause that TD pass to Maclin has me a little worried in that anyone here on this forum could of made that pass, Foles was about 2 seconds late on a wideout that was open by 15 yards or more. That bothered me more than the pick he threw that was called back.
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