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Yes, I think so in many cases, but the ones that readily come to my mind are:
1. If someone is in unrelenting pain with a terminal illness with no hope of getting better.
2. If someone is over 80 and has advanced Alzheimer's. (Of course, that would a case of assisted suicide, and s/he would have stated in writing and witnessed by at least two people that this is what s/he wanted, and at what point. Before 80, if a cure is found, the person could still have many good years left -- after 80, not so many.)
3. If the person was a paraplegic and could not bear to be that way. (Again, we are talking assisted suicide).
To answer the OP, yes. A person's life is theirs alone. If they want to end it, *for any reason*, so be it. It's not up to anyone else but them.
This is the correct answer.
OP, how you doing? I think you are in a lot of pain but not truly suicidal. There's nothing to lose by continuing, might as well because eternity is a long time to spend in the abyss.
I know I'm going to get a bunch of people telling me that I'm wrong and that suicide is never the answer blah blah blah, but please hear me out.
For some people, life doesn't get better. Some people were born with major disadvantages and some people just don't fit in and can't function in society without the help that isn't there. I feel that until we can find some sort of cure for depression (especially that caused by existentialism or unfortunate life circumstances) and until we can actually help people in need, suicide isn't going anywhere. I feel that suicide prevention is far too focused on preventing suicide, rather than actually helping people who have reached that stage. We need to do more to tackle loneliness too, as that is a societal problem, but that's another debate.
It is utterly wrong to assume that just because someone is suicidal, their judgment is somehow 'impaired' and that suicide is always a knee jerk reaction. Some of us are simply not cut out for this world and we are not afraid of our own mortality, like most people are. The whole notion that 'suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem' isn't always true, when you've had a lifetime of struggling and suffering and when all you're faced with is more of the same plus aging.
I'm going to be blunt and honest now; in my case, if there were a pill or lethal injection available to end my pain, I would take it without hesitation. Suicidal people resort to gruesome methods because there's no other way, not because they'r selfish or thinking about the trauma that finding a mutilated body would cause. If freedom is truly important to you, you should support the right to die for people who've simply had enough and have zero prospects of getting better in terms of their existences becoming 'livable'. This is especially true when the individual leaves no one behind and cannot contribute to society anymore. In my case, I'm not afraid of death and I know it won't get better, so please focus on the topic at hand and don't bother telling me that 'it will get better' because your words will fall on deaf ears.
At the end of the day, if you don't want 'taxpayers money' invested in helping and housing the mentally ill and if you agree that there's no cure for many people, you shouldn't have an issue with suicide. You cannot expect people to exist in pain, dealing with poverty, homelessness, loneliness and destitution. Do not associate suicidal ideation with irrationality, because suicide isn't always irrational and I could easily say that to be happy in this world, you have to be either oblivious, blessed or even hiding some sort of mental illness yourself.
When is it justified to bring a person into the world without their consent is a much better question for me than whether such person is justified in taking their own life. Answer is probably never, but people have kids anyway to fullfill their lives and carry on family genes. Reasons are purely selfish.
When is it justified to bring a person into the world without their consent is a much better question for me than whether such person is justified in taking their own life. Answer is probably never, but people have kids anyway to fullfill their lives and carry on family genes. Reasons are purely selfish.
The answer to the bold part is never.
The reality relating to the above is that all human beings are either born out of selfishness (intended pregnancy) or carelessness (unplanned pregnancy).
When is it justified to bring a person into the world without their consent is a much better question for me than whether such person is justified in taking their own life. Answer is probably never, but people have kids anyway to fullfill their lives and carry on family genes. Reasons are purely selfish.
Do you believe then that there is no genuine love?
There are acts in life that really are altruistic.
There is such a thing as self sacrifice.
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