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Old 01-24-2014, 01:03 PM
 
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I think that because the average girl can sleep with a really attractive guy from a bar, she thinks her value is a 9, when she is really a 6.

I know plenty of attractive guys who lower their standards when having a one night stand. One of my friends, 6"5, 220 lbs muscle, blue eyes attractive, has slept with a borderline obese girl because that night, he was really ***ny and there wasn't anything else.

Thus, her standards are "inflated". Thus for marriage, she feels that she deserves the 9 still.

And thus, I can see that many women and men would disagree on the ranking scales.

 
Old 01-24-2014, 01:06 PM
 
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Would that apply to an overweight Frier Tuck, sweating away and out of breath on top of you.
Well, sweating away and being out of breath is part of "what they do". If what they do doesn't cut the mustard (selfish lover, for example), then no. But it would definitely apply to overweight guys who are thoughtful and enthusiastic about pleasing their partner.
 
Old 01-24-2014, 01:33 PM
 
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Well, sweating away and being out of breath is part of "what they do". If what they do doesn't cut the mustard (selfish lover, for example), then no. But it would definitely apply to overweight guys who are thoughtful and enthusiastic about pleasing their partner.
I only bring that up because of statements(In more than one post) referencing middle aged fat bald men around here are typically in the negative. Since I am a middle age man who carries some extra weight and I don't have 100% of my hair I could be viewed as undesirable and I would not have the oppurtunity to show my ability to please my partner

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Old 01-24-2014, 01:41 PM
 
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Pretty sure I briefly dated a guy like that, or close to it (around 6'0 and VERY skinny, no meat at all). 125 is close to what I weigh at 5'7.5 and I'm considered very thin for a woman. I wouldn't think a guy like that has any muscle, or fat either. Doesn't seem healthy, but wouldn't be an automatic turn-off.
I have some muscle, problem is the overall mass of my arms and hands just aren't there. I can't imagine ever being overweight, we'll see if that happens in the future. Irony of the situation is I was a fat (very chubby) baby.
 
Old 01-24-2014, 01:58 PM
 
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I only bring that up because of statements(In more than one post) referencing middle aged fat bald men around here are typically in the negative. Since I am a middle age man who has carries some extra weight and don't have 100% of my hair I could be viewed as undesirable and I would not have the oppurtunity to show my ability to please my partner
Well, if it makes you feel any better, I don't even know what the average male body is to be attracted or not attracted to it. What I *do* know is that I am attracted to the man I am seeing now and he's a middle aged man, with a bit of a pot belly, and doesn't have 100% of his hair either... I can't get enough of being close to him And I was attracted to him BEFORE we got physical (and I then I found out he's by far the best/most pleasing man I've ever been with).
 
Old 01-25-2014, 02:09 AM
 
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Well, if it makes you feel any better, I don't even know what the average male body is to be attracted or not attracted to it. What I *do* know is that I am attracted to the man I am seeing now and he's a middle aged man, with a bit of a pot belly, and doesn't have 100% of his hair either... I can't get enough of being close to him And I was attracted to him BEFORE we got physical (and I then I found out he's by far the best/most pleasing man I've ever been with).
I would say that the current partner a person is involved with can usually do no wrong. If your beau was a former bf he would be viewed much more critically. I bet he is not so fat, bald or physically unattractive to the general population.
 
Old 01-25-2014, 08:15 AM
 
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I have some muscle, problem is the overall mass of my arms and hands just aren't there. I can't imagine ever being overweight, we'll see if that happens in the future. Irony of the situation is I was a fat (very chubby) baby.
My dad is 6'3" and was very skinny back in the day, 135 pounds or so. He's at least twice that now. Bookish engineer burning the midnight oil for years and eating whenever it occurred to him ... It seems pretty typical among older nerds, anyway.
 
Old 01-25-2014, 11:41 AM
 
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I would say that the current partner a person is involved with can usually do no wrong. If your beau was a former bf he would be viewed much more critically. I bet he is not so fat, bald or physically unattractive to the general population.
Well, my point was he looks pretty much the same as he did before we started dating. So looking like a typical middle aged guy isn't really a negative (if you are a middle aged guy). What I am trying to say is that it's kind of a neutral really. I mean, it doesn't help or hurt the level of attractiveness to the body. So don't be hard on yourself for just aging naturally.
 
Old 01-25-2014, 11:43 AM
 
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I hate when women say stuff like this. Like he may be ugly but he's attractive because he has a good heart and he takes car of himself. I never understood this and I never will. For me it doesn't matter if a girl is a serial killer or a saint attraction is physical.
Bully for you, but for many of us attraction is MUCH MORE than just "physical".
 
Old 01-25-2014, 12:06 PM
 
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I hate when women say stuff like this. Like he may be ugly but he's attractive because he has a good heart and he takes car of himself. I never understood this and I never will. For me it doesn't matter if a girl is a serial killer or a saint attraction is physical.
Dude, this is how narcissists and sociopaths talk. Don't you have a heart?
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