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Old 07-29-2013, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Katonah, NY
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No it isn't. I think open relationships are the single most dangerous of all of responsible non-monogamy.
So you are just suggesting he cheat on her and not tell her?

 
Old 07-29-2013, 12:36 PM
 
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So you are just suggesting he cheat on her and not tell her?
Why are you putting words in MY mouth? No. I suggested he read a book on a topic that is very difficult. There are more options than cheat and open.
 
Old 07-29-2013, 12:39 PM
 
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And once again, you keep implying that I want a open relationship, I never said that

I said I agree because it's true, human are untrustworthy in relationships majority of the time.
If trust is your issue, then how can you really say you are in love?
 
Old 07-29-2013, 12:42 PM
 
Location: New York
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Why are you putting words in MY mouth? No. I suggested he read a book on a topic that is very difficult. There are more options than cheat and open.
What other options are out there??
 
Old 07-29-2013, 12:47 PM
 
Location: New York
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If trust is your issue, then how can you really say you are in love?
Trust will always be an issue in any relationship I pursue. This is as far as my feelings go for someone. I simply don't trust anyone too much, it's dangerous. Even in a loving relationship both partners should stay vigilant of one another; otherwise, you're gonna pay for it. That applies to dating, relationships, and marriage, keep on eye on your spouse.
 
Old 07-29-2013, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Katonah, NY
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Why are you putting words in MY mouth? No. I suggested he read a book on a topic that is very difficult. There are more options than cheat and open.
I'm not putting words in our mouth. I'm asking you what you are suggesting because it has been very unclear.

I guess I don't see all these other options. I see staying with someone and not cheating, or breaking up with them.
 
Old 07-29-2013, 12:49 PM
 
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Trust will always be an issue in any relationship I pursue. This is as far as my feelings go for someone. I simply don't trust anyone too much, it's dangerous. Even in a loving relationship both partners should stay vigilant of one another; otherwise, you're gonna pay for it. That applies to dating, relationships, and marriage, keep on eye on your spouse.
Interesting. Wonder where your mistrust of people comes from since this is your first and only relationship.

Cautiousness based on past experience is one thing. Paranoia based on no past experience seems like an issue that needs to be recognized and addressed.
 
Old 07-29-2013, 12:49 PM
 
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What other options are out there??

Well, none that are going to do anything good for you if your base issue is trust. The banner term is "responsible non-monogamy". Within that set are basically three sub categories open, swinging and poly. Tomes have been written about it. I sure am not going to be able to cover it here. Read the book I referenced above. With luck the book will talk you out of it!
 
Old 07-29-2013, 12:51 PM
 
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Trust will always be an issue in any relationship I pursue. This is as far as my feelings go for someone. I simply don't trust anyone too much, it's dangerous. Even in a loving relationship both partners should stay vigilant of one another; otherwise, you're gonna pay for it. That applies to dating, relationships, and marriage, keep on eye on your spouse.
I find that really sad and dysfunctional. Love and trust go hand in hand. I wonder if what you are really doing is excusing yourself from being trustworthy.
 
Old 07-29-2013, 12:56 PM
 
Location: New York
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Interesting. Wonder where your mistrust of people comes from since this is your first and only relationship.

Cautiousness based on past experience is one thing. Paranoia based on no past experience seems like an issue that needs to be recognized and addressed.
It's not my first and only relationship. I had a long-distance relationship a few years back. I decided not to mention it in the OP because it wasn't physical per se. But, it came at the worst possible time in my life, a time where everything around me was crumbling. Eventually, she called me told me she just wanted to remain friends, she got a new boyfriend within 2 weeks, and continued to text/call me all while she was in a new relationship. One day I just boiled up and told her she can go **** herself, and I never spoke to her again.
Alot of my paranoia also comes from relationships I've observed around me for many years, most of which lead to infidelity and betrayal. Plus, my parents stayed together through a horrible marriage, and I don't even communicate with my dad anymore. So there you have it, a brief description of why I'm like this...
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