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Im not much into PUA and never have been. Alpha / Beta concepts are grounded in biology and are widely studied and recognized. Some people prefer to remain ignorant to reality though, and that's ok by me.
Fascinating. I'm a biology major (BS in wildlife and fisheries biology) with a heavy dose of zoology and animal behavior coursework. A good amount of it was genetics (as I considered vet school then), and mating systems (harems, leks, polyandry, etc... R selected vs K selected species), yet "alpha" and "beta" was never brought up that I recall.
Where did you study this biology? Maybe I should re-acquaint myself with the reproductive biology literature.
Im not much into PUA and never have been. Alpha / Beta concepts are grounded in biology and are widely studied and recognized. Some people prefer to remain ignorant to reality though, and that's ok by me.
Actually, this has been proven to be a fallacy, that it was ever associated with animal behavior.
I personally don't threaten women who reject me. I simply move on. I'm not a violent person.
I'm not a gold digger so therefore gold diggers do not exist.
See how that works?
The majority of men are good men but that doesn't mean that women shouldn't be careful. I've had guys put their hands all over me when I didn't want them to, I've been scared walking home, I've had a guy arrested for looking at me through my window. Like I said before - unwanted attention isn't always a good thing. It can be annoying, dangerous, or life threatening. This isn't to say that men do not experience the same thing - it just isn't as common.
Fascinating. I'm a biology major (BS in wildlife and fisheries biology) with a heavy dose of zoology and animal behavior coursework. A good amount of it was genetics (as I considered vet school then), and mating systems (harems, leks, polyandry, etc... R selected vs K selected species), yet "alpha" and "beta" was never brought up that I recall.
Where did you study this biology? Maybe I should re-acquaint myself with the reproductive biology literature.
I study biology by observing life, but of course you believe that what you've read in books is more important. Also, alpha and beta concepts are covered in detail, when it comes to many different types of animals, so Im not sure why you are all getting so hung up on it. Ill make it easy for you, when I mention alpha traits in a man, I speak of a man that is:
- comfortable in his own skin
- passionate in life, has a purpose
- composed
- driven
- has high morals and values
- is a natural leader
- problem solver
- poses a challenge
- not afraid to face his faults
-dominant
-shameless
-aggressive
-optimistic
-direct
Beta men, who are vast majority of todays male population, exhibit following traits:
- shy
- indecisive
- overly nice (nice guys)
- follower
- gives up too easily
- holds women on a pedestal
- apologizes too much
- compromises too much
- white knights
- always ashamed of his own sexuality
and a long list of others. There are plenty of scientific studies that show for example that women prefer masculine alpha men during their ovulation period, for obvious reasons. In order not to type out these lists, each and every time - I simply call them alpha and beta traits. Bookmark it now, next time youre a bit confused. Thanks
I study biology by observing life, but of course you believe that what you've read in books is more important. Also, alpha and beta concepts are covered in detail, when it comes to many different types of animals, so Im not sure why you are all getting so hung up on it. Ill make it easy for you, when I mention alpha traits in a man, I speak of a man that is:
- comfortable in his own skin
- passionate in life, has a purpose
- composed
- driven
- has high morals and values
- is a natural leader
- problem solver
- poses a challenge
- not afraid to face his faults
-dominant
-shameless
-aggressive
-optimistic
-direct
Beta men, who are vast majority of todays male population, exhibit following traits:
- shy
- indecisive
- overly nice (nice guys)
- follower
- gives up too easily
- holds women on a pedestal
- apologizes too much
- compromises too much
- white knights
- always ashamed of his own sexuality
and a long list of others. In order not to type out these lists, each and every time - I simply call them alpha and beta traits. Bookmark it now, next time youre a bit confused. Thanks
Are there any other words that you have made up your own definitions for that we should know about?
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
41,936 posts, read 36,989,150 times
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Anabasis X
I study biology by observing life, but of course you believe that what you've read in books is more important. Also, alpha and beta concepts are covered in detail, when it comes to many different types of animals, so Im not sure why you are all getting so hung up on it. Ill make it easy for you, when I mention alpha traits in a man, I speak of a man that is:
- comfortable in his own skin
- passionate in life, has a purpose
- composed
- driven
- has high morals and values
- is a natural leader
- problem solver
- poses a challenge
- not afraid to face his faults
-dominant
-shameless
-aggressive
-optimistic
-direct
Beta men, who are vast majority of todays male population, exhibit following traits:
- shy
- indecisive
- overly nice (nice guys)
- follower
- gives up too easily
- holds women on a pedestal
- apologizes too much
- compromises too much
- white knights
- always ashamed of his own sexuality
and a long list of others. In order not to type out these lists, each and every time - I simply call them alpha and beta traits. Bookmark it now, next time youre a bit confused. Thanks
Ah, so you haven't studied biology. Got it. Nor are your beliefs really supported by the biological research literature on species mating, it is just what you want to believe in your head. Got it.
And amazingly, most everyone in this world is a mix of a lot of different traits that come out in different situations and almost no one falls into any just one category. You're seeing what you want to see to validate your own pre-determined beliefs. There isn't any real objective scientific basis for it. This is especially highlighted by the use of the term "too much". What is "too much"? Oh, they're "beta" when you think that it is "too much". It isn't objective or scientific, it is just your beliefs and attempts at labeling others.
I'm not a gold digger so therefore gold diggers do not exist.
See how that works?
The majority of men are good men but that doesn't mean that women shouldn't be careful. I've had guys put their hands all over me when I didn't want them to, I've been scared walking home, I've had a guy arrested for looking at me through my window. Like I said before - unwanted attention isn't always a good thing. It can be annoying, dangerous, or life threatening. This isn't to say that men do not experience the same thing - it just isn't as common.
Its actually a lot more common. Men are far more prone to be attacked / assaulted while out in public. Maybe we should teach all men not to be violent, because as we all know, they are inherently violent, aggressive and evil. Feminism bah.
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