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Good chance he would have gone to jail without the CCTV evidence.
She should be in jail right now for slander and for a false rape accusation, but of course, she'll end up getting off scot free. She gives women that have REALLY been raped a bad name.
Oh for Pete's sake. A person could find a zillion cases of bad accusations, charges, arrests, convictions, etc. What are you suggesting this proves? All women are evil, courts and law enforcement favor women? It happens to both genders, it happens between social and economic classes, it happens between races and cultures.
My son was arrested and spent a week in jail on attempted murder charges because he defended himself and his girlfriend against a man that was harassing them and started a fistfight with him while they were at a wake. When witnesses came forward all charges were dropped. He still spent a week in jail and nothing was done to the man who filed false charges. What does that prove? All men are evil, courts favor blond haired men?
Oh for Pete's sake. A person could find a zillion cases of bad accusations, charges, arrests, convictions, etc. What are you suggesting this proves? All women are evil, courts and law enforcement favor women? It happens to both genders, it happens between social and economic classes, it happens between races and cultures.
My son was arrested and spent a week in jail on attempted murder charges because he defended himself and his girlfriend against a man that was harassing them and started a fistfight with him while they were at a wake. When witnesses came forward all charges were dropped. He still spent a week in jail and nothing was done to the man who filed false charges. What does that prove? All men are evil, courts favor blond haired men?
You are correct, but in this case, we are talking about women filing wrongful rape accusations.
Oh for Pete's sake. A person could find a zillion cases of bad accusations, charges, arrests, convictions, etc. What are you suggesting this proves? All women are evil, courts and law enforcement favor women? It happens to both genders, it happens between social and economic classes, it happens between races and cultures.
My son was arrested and spent a week in jail on attempted murder charges because he defended himself and his girlfriend against a man that was harassing them and started a fistfight with him while they were at a wake. When witnesses came forward all charges were dropped. He still spent a week in jail and nothing was done to the man who filed false charges. What does that prove? All men are evil, courts favor blond haired men?
I had a similar experience. I used to have an after school job with the elementary school back when I was in high school. One day, a father accused me of "beating up" his son (or abusing him I suppose). In his fury, he demanded to see me at the school Luckily, the day this was alleged to have happened, I was away on a school trip--had been for the whole week. So not only was I not there to face an angry father's misplaced wrath, but I wasn't there when his kid came home black and blue. Suddenly the story changed when it was realized the lie couldn't stick because I was and had been several states away. Turned out he got into a fight with another kid he wasn't supposed to be around and decided to blame me to protect himself.
Does this mean all little boys are horrible monsters who want to ruin people's lives? Of course not. Could I have had my life ruined if his lie stuck, yes. But it doesn't mean I am going around fearing little boys and their false accusations the rest of my life. It was an isolated incident with a brat.
Crap like that happens in life. It's horrible and unfair. But more so than false accusations the real crimes happen more often (child abuse, rape, assaults, etc). And those crimes are just as horrible and unfair to their victims as well. I would say there need to be stiff penalties for those who make false accusations. But just because a handful of miscreants make them, doesn't mean the world is out to get you. You got to think logically and keep perspective.
Don't become an emotional wreck who sees danger or false accusations around every corner. If you are a man who does this, thinks every woman is out to accuse you of fake rape. Then you are exactly like a woman who lives in fear that every man out there is out to hurt her and rape her. It's offensive to the good women who are the majority and would never make a false claim (or in the case of the woman, the good men who would never lay a hand on you) of the world to be lumped in with false accusers and rapists. And it makes your life a miserable one full of fear. Be safe, don't do stupid things that will put you at risk, but don't cripple yourself with fear.
You are correct, but in this case, we are talking about women filing wrongful rape accusations.
I read the link. First it said "accused of brushing against the actress" then its says "cleared of sexual assault" and later "the CPS presenting a case that the man was able to penetrate the actress". No where did it say wrongful rape accusations. What I gathered from the case was it was the fault of the CPS. They are the ones who turned the brushing against into penetration.
Which goes back to our (or their) court system being flawed and not that one or the other gender is evil and to blame for this.
I had a similar experience. I used to have an after school job with the elementary school back when I was in high school. One day, a father accused me of "beating up" his son (or abusing him I suppose). In his fury, he demanded to see me at the school Luckily, the day this was alleged to have happened, I was away on a school trip--had been for the whole week. So not only was I not there to face an angry father's misplaced wrath, but I wasn't there when his kid came home black and blue. Suddenly the story changed when it was realized the lie couldn't stick because I was and had been several states away. Turned out he got into a fight with another kid he wasn't supposed to be around and decided to blame me to protect himself.
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The scary thing is anyone can go file an accusation and if your convincing enough you can get the warrant writer to have someone charged and arrested. You dont have to prove any real evidence initially.
Alimony generally gets awarded to the person earning less, and generally due to societal norms and quite frankly, male ego, its the woman that becomes the primary childcare giver and really family care giver for extended family, so their careers take a back seat. If more men went for joint custody (which is the default where I live), then child care wouldn't be and issue. I don't live in fear of 1 in 20 chances personally. I also rarely, if ever, date people out my socioeconomic class.
And oh yeah, alimony. 0.35 (generous, percent of first time marriages ending in divorce) * 0.10 t 0.15 (percentages of divorces that include any spousal support), so on the high end there is a 5.25% chance of someone getting married for the first time ever having to pay any alimony, of which the vast amount is temporary.
Interestingly, that percentage is higher than the percentage of divorces that ever go to court/trial, that's about 5%, so the chances of lawyers getting rich is pretty slim too. Most people settle amicably, and tons use mediators to do the division / dissolution.
My parents spent tens of thousands on lawyers and didnt even go to court for many years after the divorce (over a custody battle long after the fact over my brother). The mediatiors cost several thousand as well. The reality is the richer most families are the more they waste on divorce in many cases. Marriage makes better sense to men with nothing to lose, or very, very stringent prenups.
Yes permanent alimony is fairly rare these days but it still happens. And what percentage of the time does the women just get to keep the primary residence "for the sake of the kids" etc? The courts are still biased against men. The fact that 97% of alimony recipients are women despite the fact that 40% are the higher earner in the family should tell you this.
Yes permanent alimony is fairly rare these days but it still happens. And what percentage of the time does the women just get to keep the primary residence "for the sake of the kids" etc? The courts are still biased against men. The fact that 97% of alimony recipients are women despite the fact that 40% are the higher earner in the family should tell you this.
When my sister divorced she "got the house", but as part of the settlement she had to buy out her ex-husband's share, and take on the cost of refinancing, which was a financial hit. Then she had to pay the mortgage and maintenance and utility costs that used to be shared by two working adults on her own. That's not an unusual outcome, and it's not exactly a woman rolling around in piles of her ex's money.
The 97% number (is there a citation, or is this just what MGOTW dudes tell themselves?) sounds impressive until you think of what Timberline was trying to say--alimony is awarded in a tiny fraction of divorces. 97% of a tiny fraction is still a tiny fraction of divorced men who have to pay alimony.
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Yes permanent alimony is fairly rare these days but it still happens. And what percentage of the time does the women just get to keep the primary residence "for the sake of the kids" etc? The courts are still biased against men. The fact that 97% of alimony recipients are women despite the fact that 40% are the higher earner in the family should tell you this.
It doesn't at all, because we have no idea if it is the same cohort.
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is there a citation, or is this just what MGOTW dudes tell themselves?
I've read citations from the Wall Street Journal and other media sources, but I don't know the source of the data.
But yeah, a tiny fraction of a minority fraction really means nothing.
What is clear from the data from most published economic research on the results of divorce is that men make out worse health wise from it, while women make out much worse financially.
My parents spent tens of thousands on lawyers and didnt even go to court for many years after the divorce (over a custody battle long after the fact over my brother). The mediatiors cost several thousand as well. The reality is the richer most families are the more they waste on divorce in many cases. Marriage makes better sense to men with nothing to lose, or very, very stringent prenups.
Yes permanent alimony is fairly rare these days but it still happens. And what percentage of the time does the women just get to keep the primary residence "for the sake of the kids" etc? The courts are still biased against men. The fact that 97% of alimony recipients are women despite the fact that 40% are the higher earner in the family should tell you this.
Regarding the primary residence, you could say the courts are biased toward children, because the primary caregiver often gets to live there with the children so that they can continue to go to their same schools, have their same friends, and otherwise experience less disruption in their lives.
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