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Old 07-21-2019, 06:12 PM
 
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She's a liar. Get out of it.

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Old 07-21-2019, 06:13 PM
 
Location: As of 2022….back to SoCal. OC this time!
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Doesn't sound like he's staying.

Reading the whole thread makes your replies better. He did post a long follow-up today.
Ok....he made the *right* decision! If you don't have trust, you don't have anything......
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Old 07-21-2019, 07:06 PM
 
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I got the whole picture as soon as OP reported that “things are better on both ends”— not his and hers, but just hers. He plays no part in this problem, no explanations for how he knows she’s done 2 wrong things in 4 years, no discussion, just conclusion.

So yeah he should definitely let her go. The ex might take her back, and even “let” her chat with her old fiancé if she wants. Without laying down the law.
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Old 07-21-2019, 07:25 PM
 
Location: DFW
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Does she have a drinking problem and hide that from you also ?
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Old 07-21-2019, 07:32 PM
 
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I wonder why she feels she can't just tell you that she's helping the mother of the ex. Would you be unhappy about it? If she liked the woman before the break up, there's no reason she wouldn't still like her.

A little couples counseling might help the two of you communicate better.
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Old 07-22-2019, 07:13 AM
 
Location: On the corner of Grey Street
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I wouldn't be okay with a partner that went behind my back and continued to talk to an ex after we agreed they would cut ties. If something came up and his mom reached out to her for help she definitely should have let you know. From what you are saying you are level headed and wouldn't have hit the roof if she had been honest with you about it. But we're only getting your side of the story so it's hard to tell.



We can try to give you advice, but you know her not us. We can't tell you if she has lingering feelings for him or they really are just friends and she's trying to be a nice person and help his mom. Sometimes things came up in relationships and sometimes people do mess up. If the relationship is good otherwise and on the whole makes you happy, then it's worth it to try to work things out. If it's not good on the whole or the person does something you just can't get past, then it can be time to move on.



Have you guys done counseling together? Although TBH if you need to put in THIS much effort and counseling before even getting married maybe that's not the best omen for your marriage.
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Old 07-22-2019, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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Ask her why she feels she can't tell you the truth about something pretty benign like helping someone find a new place to live. If she avoids telling you the truth because she's afraid of your reaction, that's a problem. If you are unapproachable or overly critical maybe that's why she avoids telling you things.
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Old 07-22-2019, 09:17 AM
 
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This. ^^^^
Yes. I don’t see “agreement” in the story, I read orders and directions, not mutual agreement. I didn’t read anywhere about a discussion in the helping a friend move either, just assumptions that it MUST mean there’s still communication with the ex, that it should have been reported. Still no explanation of how fiancé knows her whereabouts whether she reports it or not.

BTW, one does not need to “yell and scream” for another to know when they’re mad.
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Old 07-22-2019, 09:17 AM
 
Location: USA
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"Have you guys done counseling together? Although TBH if you need to put in THIS much effort and counseling before even getting married maybe that's not the best omen for your marriage."

My thoughts exactly.
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Old 07-22-2019, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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Yes. I don’t see “agreement” in the story, I read orders and directions, not mutual agreement. I didn’t read anywhere about a discussion in the helping a friend move either, just assumptions that it MUST mean there’s still communication with the ex, that it should have been reported. Still no explanation of how fiancé knows her whereabouts whether she reports it or not.

BTW, one does not need to “yell and scream” for another to know when they’re mad.

I'm definitely getting some "overtones" from the OP, and he is not answering a lot of pertinent questions. With this, and the other thread, I suspect they are a poor match.
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