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Predos, you couldn't be more wrong. Now, will you continue to ignore this "evidence"?
A team of scientist has discovered the remains of Noah's Ark on Mount Ararat in Turky. In the summer of 2007 the fourth expedition on Mt. Ararat yielded results. Inside a cave, on the mountian they discovered a wooden structure measuring 12.5 yards in width, and 2.8 yards in height. These findings are a significant breakthrough in the search for the remains of the Ark, and are backed up by filmed documentation as material evidence.
Samples from a (large wood structure) found on top of the Mountain in 2006 by Mr. Ahmet Ertugrul, who is a Turkish explorer, were sent back to Hong Kong to undergo scientific analysis. Petrographic examinations conducted by the Applied Geoscience Center of the Department of Earth Sciences at Hong Kong University stated. The samples come from a petrified wooden structure. Consider the link below.
Bridges For Peace - Historic Discovery: Remnants of Noah’s Ark Found (http://www.bridgesforpeace.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=4438 - broken link)
Your "evidence" is from a religious website with a pre-ordained agenda. Not exactly credible, announcing a discovery of exactly what they wanted to find.
Additionally, your "large wood structure" does not have to be an ark, even if it were there. I know of a log cabin that is very old, does that make it part of the ark?
Where are you alleged filmed documentaries and when were they shown? If they indeed did prove anything, the churches of the world would be shouting about them from the rooftops. This, instead of a group of loonies claiming unveriable things and stating a conspiracy to hide the evidence from everyone (why it should be hidden is never explained).
In other words, you started out wrong, never proved your claim except to yourself, and remain wrong.
The reasons to doubt such an ark have been laid out time and again for you to ignore (never repudiate mind you). Yet you claim to have the sole truth about everything and, to use your term, everyone else in the entire world must be lying.
Simple, because they have no frigging clue as to how wood petrifies and furthermore the time it takes for it to happen. Were there petrified wood artifacts, that in itself rules out the ark myth as your 4500 years is too short a time for this to happen and furthermore, the conditions in the surrounding proximity is not conducive to wood petrification. Wood does not petrify in ice.
They don't have to know how long it takes for wood to petrify. This is not about your worldview based on unfound assumptions. It's about their stated truth. And it is a truth that refutes your assumptions. Scientist have created petrified wood in a week, and in hot springs in Yellowstone a block of wood was petrified in a year. It really depends on existing conditions, not existing unfounded personal beliefs. And as the link below points out, scientist can still not adequately explain the process.
http://www.mineral.co.za/woodopal.htm (broken link)
A tree covered with silt by a flood in the year 1918 wash out by another flood in the 1950s. And it clearly showed that the trunk had already turned to stone. Even fence posts have been found petrified and some still displaying ax marks. And one still had a piece of wire attached. Creation and Evolution - Mina Young defends Creationism
So, your assumption that it must take millions of years for wood to become petrified, does not agree with the facts.
Your "evidence" is from a religious website with a pre-ordained agenda. Not exactly credible, announcing a discovery of exactly what they wanted to find.
Additionally, your "large wood structure" does not have to be an ark, even if it were there. I know of a log cabin that is very old, does that make it part of the ark?
Where are you alleged filmed documentaries and when were they shown? If they indeed did prove anything, the churches of the world would be shouting about them from the rooftops. This, instead of a group of loonies claiming unveriable things and stating a conspiracy to hide the evidence from everyone (why it should be hidden is never explained).
In other words, you started out wrong, never proved your claim except to yourself, and remain wrong.
The reasons to doubt such an ark have been laid out time and again for you to ignore (never repudiate mind you). Yet you claim to have the sole truth about everything and, to use your term, everyone else in the entire world must be lying.
Sure.
Well, how many Petrified Log cabins have been found at the top of Mt. Ararat?
Everyone in the world is not lying, just a few people in positions of power. And they did not want the Ark found because according to Duckworth, some of the religious people were getting upset with what was going on with the Arks artifacts. Ed Davis said from years before, that the people considered all the artifacts holy, and hid them in a cave to keep them safe.
An Islamic scholar told Robin Simmons,who was an Ark explorer, that there is a wide spread belief that when the Ark is found this will be a sign that Mohammed is returning to earth to purge the earth of heretics in a holy war. I really don't believe National Geographic or the Smithsonian wanted to create an international religious incident. Also, Duckworth stated that they used thermolite grenades to burn through the Arks hull to gain access. If the ark is considered a holy object by the Islamics, well then, the Islamics may not approve of the way the Smithsonian treated the Ark. Duckworth stated, he saw pictures of some of the inside rooms, and cages.
Any photos of the tree from 1918 that petrified? The chopped wood fence posts?
Easy for you to verify.
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From the other side of the world comes a report of the chapel of Santa Maria of Health (Santa Maria de Salute), built in 1630 in Venice, Italy, to celebrate the end of The Plague. Because Venice is built on watersaturated clay and sand, the chapel was constructed on 180,000 wooden pilings to reinforce the foundations. Even though the chapel is a massive stone block structure, it has remained firm since its construction. How have the wooden pilings lasted over 360 years? They have petrified! The chapel now rests on 'stone' pilings!7
7Segment on 'Burke's Backyard', Channel 9 TV, Sydney, June 1995.
Everyone in the world is not lying, just a few people in positions of power. And they did not want the Ark found because according to Duckworth, some of the religious people were getting upset with what was going on with the Arks artifacts. Ed Davis said from years before, that the people considered all the artifacts holy, and hid them in a cave to keep them safe.
If religious people really believed that the ark had been found there would be such a push to make it public it would be unstoppable. Look at all of the effort that you yourself have made on this forum to try to prove it's true. Wouldn't you love to see credible evidence broadcast around the world that proved what you'd been saying all these years was real? Of course you would and so would millions of others. The reality though is that there is no evidence and these stories about Duckworth and the conspiracy are laughable. I know you really believe all of this so I don't consider you to be a liar. I do think this Duckworth character was lying though. His story has no credibility at all and all we have for evidence is just his account of the supposed events.
As far as the 2007 events are concerned I suspect that the people who were researching the ark were hopeful that they were on to something but it didn't pan out and the story just faded away.
If religious people really believed that the ark had been found there would be such a push to make it public it would be unstoppable. .
How did it get lost in the first place? It was always known of and visited and written of by the ancients.
Modern day "C-o-v-e-ru-p" because of agendas?
How did it get lost in the first place? It was always known of and visited and written of by the ancients.
Modern day "C-o-v-e-r u-p" because of agendas?
It couldn't have become lost because it never existed in the first place. It's a fact that at least in America that religious organizations are by far the most powerful and influential groups and a great many of their members are in positions of power and authority. There is no one who could cover up a discovery of this magnitude and I can't think of a reason why anyone would want to. When you consider the fact that Christian conservatives wield so much political clout and are found in every governmental agency including the FBI it would be impossible for such a coverup to happen.
Pilings my dear are submerged in water and mud, the ark is at 15k' so not the same science even if your link is true which I doubt. Acumen in the sciences has no bearing with either of you two.
Ok guys, we are in the conspiracy mode of this ark thread rendition, time to don your tinfoil hats
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