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Old 01-15-2010, 07:43 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Exactly, so it's not Christianity then. Jesus never taught voodoo. So it stands to reason that those that practice voodoo are not followers of Christ.

godspeed,

freedom
As I said, one does not exclude the other. Many Brazilians also adhere to African beliefs and Christianity at the same time. They are quite similar actually. That is why slaves were able to hide their African religions behind Christianity so well when the former were still forbidden.

Jesus had a limited horizon, he never went to Africa, so how would he have known anything about African religions? He was a Jew, nothing else.
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Old 01-15-2010, 07:45 AM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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As I said, one does not exclude the other. Many Brazilians also adhere to African beliefs and Christianity at the same time. They are quite similar actually. That is why slaves have been able to hide their African religions behind Christianity so well when the former were still forbidden.

Jesus had a limited horizon, he never went to Africa, so how would he have known anything about African religions? He was a Jew, nothing else.
He lived in Egypt. Is Egypt no longer in Africa?

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Old 01-15-2010, 07:46 AM
 
Location: Oxford, England
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We killed 1 million? Hadn't heard that one.

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freedom
What's your point exactly ? And are you really that interested in the truth about it ?



I know you'll dispute those numbers because you will of course not like the source but it was estimated at 600,000 people in 2006. It might not make a million by 2010 granted but certainly not a number we should be proud of.

Even at the lowest numbers very conservative estimates and it was "only" about 250, 000 people I am not quite sure what your point is .... That a million lives is what it takes for this complete shambles of an illegal invasion to become somewhat more of an issue ? Is that what it takes for people like you to take notice ? One gets the feeling that Iraqi lives are somewhat less important than Western ones and that a few hundred thousand dead people ( how many maimed, homeless, and having lost everything to top those numbers) in Iraq is equal to about 3000 of ours.



Talk about using a very large hammer to crack a tiny nut. Invading Iraq was not only illegal ( breach of International Laws), it was immoral. That's right IMMORAL.


Invading a sovereign Nation under the guise of WMDs when we knew perfectly well there were none and trying to distract the public away from the real issue of where the real terrorists lay was bloody wrong. And how convenient that our oil lay under their land .... Gee I wonder why we invaded Iraq ?

Study Claims Iraq's 'Excess' Death Toll Has Reached 655,000 - washingtonpost.com

Back to the ignore list before my Blood pressure goes through the roof.

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Old 01-15-2010, 07:46 AM
 
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Exactly, so it's not Christianity then. Jesus never taught voodoo. So it stands to reason that those that practice voodoo are not followers of Christ.

godspeed,

freedom
Voodo is strictly of the devil.

Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils. - 1 Corinthians 10:21
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Old 01-15-2010, 07:47 AM
 
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Voodo is strictly of the devil.

Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils. - 1 Corinthians 10:21
Amen!

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freedom
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Old 01-15-2010, 07:49 AM
 
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He lived in Egypt. Is Egypt no longer in Africa?

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freedom
At the time he might have lived in Egypt (I am not saying that he did, but then again, he lived in India, too, even died there ), Egypt was not African anymore in terms of culture, if it ever had been, which I doubt. Egypt had nothing to do with Voodoo.
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Old 01-15-2010, 07:51 AM
 
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Voodo is strictly of the devil.

Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils. - 1 Corinthians 10:21
Typical Semitic monotheist exlusion thingy based on fear of the unknown, open your eyes and grow up
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Old 01-15-2010, 07:52 AM
 
Location: Oxford, England
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Clean out your ears, i take no joy in suffering or destruction. Neither do i choose to deny the inevitable.

Every seed produces after its own kind. Thoughts and acts are seeds.


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freedom
You're absolutely right. And some of those seeds grow into weeds. Yours are unlikely to produce any fragrant blooms or useful nourishment I fear.
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Old 01-15-2010, 07:53 AM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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I know you'll dispute those numbers because you will of course not like the source but it was estimated at 600,000 people in 2006. It might not make a million by 2010 granted but certainly not a number we should be proud of.

Even at the lowest numbers very conservative estimates and it was "only" about 250, 000 people I am not quite sure what your point is .... That a million is what it takes for this complete shambles of an illegal invasion to become somewhat more of an issue ?

Talk about using a very large hammer to crack a tiny nut. Invading Iraq was not only illegal ( breach of International Laws), it was immoral. That's right IMMORAL.


Invading a sovereign Nation under the guise of WMDs when we knew perfectly well there were none and trying to distract the public away from the real issue of where the real terrorists lay was bloody wrong. And how convenient that our oil lay under their land .... Gee I wonder why we invaded Iraq ?

Study Claims Iraq's 'Excess' Death Toll Has Reached 655,000 - washingtonpost.com
Do you know how many Saddam killed per yr. ? One could say that less died under the hands of Bush/cheney than Saddam murdered and would have murdered.

As well, most of those that died, received their judgement as they were the henchmen for Saddams murder squads.

Most of the people are pleased to have him gone, the rest time will tell.

In analyzing something, it's good to include all the possibilities and outcomes.

where is your criticism of the murderous dictator of that sovereign nation...

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freedom
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Old 01-15-2010, 07:56 AM
 
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You're absolutely right. And some of those seeds grow into weeds. Yours are unlikely to produce any fragrant blooms or useful nourishment I fear.
Theres no fear in love.

some of my seeds are weeds, hopefully less and less as i learn to plant good seed. I don't fear the truth. We are sinners, and if we deny that, we won't ever put the necessary effort to overcoming our weaknesses.

godspeed,

freedom
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