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Wow, some people become expert "Welfare queens" and they even help others take advantage of the system
That is hilarious.
We are discussing a government funded program that YOU MUST pay into if you do not have medical coverage or you will be fined.
So I guess in your opinion every collage kid that makes less than 40K a year is a welfare bear?
As is every teenager with a part time job NOT covered by their parents?
Its really simple. and functions a lot like S.S.- Anyone without medical coverage, must pay for this. If make less than about 40k a year you get a discount. If you are in school you get a discount. If you have kids you get a discount.
You do not get to choose if you want to partake or not, its the law. You do not get to choose if you get a discount or not.
This isn't a support program like welfare where you apply for free stuff or money, it is required on penalty of fines.
And I love how you never answer the questions I ask, just avoid them. I am starting to think your just trolling albeit poorly.
And I love how you never answer the questions I ask, just avoid them. I am starting to think your just trolling albeit poorly.
I think it is time to call it quits here - I think that maybe we are talking different languages. We spend 15 pages arguing about people who come into farming flush with money, you claim that is not the case and then at page 23 of the thread it turns out you sold a business and started a farm.
Then when I point that fact out in my last post - you totally skip over it and rant about me avoiding your questions.
I think you have a reading issue.
Where did I ever say I started a farm?
You do avoid questions, habitually. I can list them if you like.
It seems you have become lost. The main argument that I, submariner and many others are trying to make is that you do not need a vast sum of money to get started.
You have argued counter to that several times.
And then you back track and say it is possible with a small amount of money.
I think you have a reading issue.
Where did I ever say I started a farm?
I know you didn't - I just wanted you to say that. Now we know from your own admission - YOU DO NOT EVEN FARM . So, remind me again, how do you factor into this discussion? Do you contribute as an armchair researcher? A Google search expert?
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Originally Posted by Westcoastnavy
It seems you have become lost. The main argument that I, submariner and many others are trying to make is that you do not need a vast sum of money to get started.
I think I can actually talk to Submariner about SOMETHING - the man seems to have the experience (although I think that even he is hiding some stuff about his financials but I have no proof). Since all you have done is run a manufacturing business - that does not make you a farming expert. Neither does access to Mr. Google.
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Originally Posted by Westcoastnavy
You have argued counter to that several times.
And then you back track and say it is possible with a small amount of money.
I said anything's possible BUT NOT PROBABLE (as in not likely to happen). I think you are the one with a reading comprehension?
I have said that for most people to whom Daddy left no land, it will be a heck of a lot of money to start a farm, survive the first few years before it becomes profitable (if it ever does) and that even if it does become profitable, it will be a substandard life with barely a few bucks in the bank, no health insurance etc. You are the one who responded by saying that for health insurance you can always become a freeloader and go to a free health clinic (which apparently is a question of morality and not a fact that you are intentionally making a business decision to rely on external inputs into your financials).
Anyways, what else have you been Googling? Maybe we can start a big discussion on that? Nothing better than arguing with someone who has never done something but has all the "research" and "true stories" to back up their argument
Scientific Method
1Ask a Question
2Do Background Research
3Construct a Hypothesis
4Test Your Hypothesis by Doing an Experiment
5Analyze Your Data and Draw a Conclusion
6Communicate Your Results
Where does it say ignore all the available data and just roll with your opinion?
I have listed my experience. But like submariners post you seem unable to locate it.
At this point I must assume you are trolling, because I do not think anyone can be as inept as you pretend to be.
You are a lost cause.
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Scientific Method
1Ask a Question
2Do Background Research
3Construct a Hypothesis
4Test Your Hypothesis by Doing an Experiment
5Analyze Your Data and Draw a Conclusion
6Communicate Your Results
Where does it say ignore all the available data and just roll with your opinion?
I have listed my experience. But like submariners post you seem unable to locate it.
At this point I must assume you are trolling, because I do not think anyone can be as inept as you pretend to be.
You are a lost cause.
I am taking the high road here Sir. You won't hear anymore from me in this thread .
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