Crime in San Diego (Lincoln, Imperial: high crime, elementary school, to live)

[NYSD1995]

Originally Posted by SD Observer

@ Sassberto :

In City Heights is there a significant Asian population ?
I've heard there are a fair amount of Vietnamese and Korean families.

But yes mostly Mexican in City Heights.

between 44th and 54th is "Little Saigon"... the church on the corner of 54th and ECB offers services in english, spanish, hmong.

[SD Observer]

Originally Posted by Sassberto

between 44th and 54th is "Little Saigon"... the church on the corner of 54th and ECB offers services in english, spanish, hmong.

"Little Saigon" would imply Vietnamese.

So I'm guessing that the stretch of ECB between 44th & 54th is mostly Vietnamese ?

How about any Korean, Filipino or Chinese enclaves in City Heights?

Finally, what is the Caucasian percentage in City Heights ?

I read in another thread that most of the White folks left in the 1980's during the "White Flight" away from ESD.

[NYSD1995]

Originally Posted by SD Observer

"Little Saigon" would imply Vietnamese.

So I'm guessing that the stretch of ECB between 44th & 54th is mostly Vietnamese ?

How about any Korean, Filipino or Chinese enclaves in City Heights?

Finally, what is the Caucasian percentage in City Heights ?

I read in another thread that most of the White folks left in the 1980's during the "White Flight" away from ESD.

Yes vietnamese between 44th and 54th. Cambodian / Loatian, etc... Southeast asian. Chinese and Korean are too wealthy to live in that area... you'll find them in North County.

Caucasion, probably mid single digits to low double-digits at this point, there are still some whites in the more established neighborhoods like Oak Park.

White flight was the late 60's, not the 80's. You need to read up on your history. After the assassination of MLK and the ensuing race riots in the 60's most of the cities in the US experienced white flight. During the 70's, the US experienced several waves of immigration from latin america and southeast asia. That is not unique to San Diego but was a national trend. San Diego has not been an international immigration gateway like LA until very recently, and City Heights was mostly white / latino even in the 60's.

There was no "ghetto", no "hood" (save some parts of the south, some neighborhoods in the northeastern cities) in this country until the 70's when the drug culture came to exist. All that crime and blight has happened in some cases in less than 30 years.

[SD Observer]

Originally Posted by Sassberto

Yes vietnamese between 44th and 54th. Cambodian / Loatian, etc... Southeast asian. Chinese and Korean are too wealthy to live in that area... you'll find them in North County.

What there are no wealthy Vietnamese or poor Chinese and Koreans ?

Thats a bit of stereotyping huh !

[Huckleberry3911948]

crime is not low---- saunders tweaks the stats. did it when he was police chief does it now.
there should be a 22% write up on any black and white dispatch (nationwide stats) in SD its 7%.

[NYSD1995]

Originally Posted by SD Observer

What there are no wealthy Vietnamese or poor Chinese and Koreans ?

Thats a bit of stereotyping huh !

That's not what I meant, but generally speaking new immigrants from China and Korea come on H1-B's and are scientists or engineers. They are too wealthy to live in City Heights. So most Chinese or Korean in City Heights would have had to have arrived many years ago, and many of that group made enough money to leave that neighborhood. Generally speaking todays Asian immigrant is much more well-educated than the Asian immigrant of the 1970's (many are doctors, most have Master's degrees). The dominant asian groups in City Heights came as refugees, from very poor countries with very low levels of education (i.e Vietnam).

Think about the population of City Heights (Vietnamese, Cambodian, Mexican,Somali) and then think about world events of the last 3 decades. City Heights is a neighborhood where first-generation immigrant families settle and then leave once they can. The shape of immigration has changed in this country in the past 10 years so that you do not see the same type of people coming from the same type of places anymore.

[kettlepot]

A lot of the drug dealing and prostitution activity along ECB has been pushed a bit further east, east of 54th Street, in recent months. Local residents and the SDPD have been working actively working together to make their more usual locations uncomfortable. Either the College Area will respond in kind and keep it moving, or it will take root there. Conversely, the recent step up in enforcement west of 54th will peter out, and the trash will move back west.

[jeffrito]

Crime is huge here, gotten worse over the last couple of years - I'm surprised at the posts here that claim otherwise - rapes, bank robberies, muggings and gang shootings - it is so common that we are taking it for granted now.

[shocker13]

Hello everyone. Let me start off by saying that I love my home town of San Diego. And I am looking forward to moving back this summer but I think I owe it to everyone to tell you that my family has been the victom of violent crime. In 1988 my grandmother was murdered in Chula Vista in the early morning hours. At the time she lived just off Broadway and D Street. I was 14 at the time. Iam now 35 and I can remember that she lived just around the corner from a big baseball field complex. I hope one day they catch the people who did it. I just think that people who want to move here need to know that crime does happen here.

[westwind15]

[quote=Imperial1904;2030011]Anchorage is a big surprise. Kind of weird to hear violent crime in Alaska.

Especially when you consider that their doors are frozen shut half the year!