Komo TV Seattle is Dying,,,, yep they went there (big home, employment)
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I totally agree with that, way more “compassionate” than letting them rot on the streets, plus it’s a beautiful setting, almost like a sanatorium.
This is the actual problem. I believe the tent community is so large in Seattle because there are no rules.
People have to want help in order to actually get it. Putting them on an Island is just relocating them so we don't have to see them.
Maybe some rules and jail time would help people wake up to the idea that they actually DO need help and that playtime is over.
This is the actual problem. I believe the tent community is so large in Seattle because there are no rules.
People have to want help in order to actually get it. Putting them on an Island is just relocating them so we don't have to see them.
Maybe some rules and jail time would help people wake up to the idea that they actually DO need help and that playtime is over.
I don’t think all of them should be relocated, just the ones that commit crimes, or if they voluntarily want to cure their addiction and get back on their feet. Also it doesn’t have to be on the island, it could be downtown.
Looking the other way and pretending that you are helping them because you are giving them free will and patting them on the back saying it’s not their fault, they are just a product of their circumstances and can’t expect anything better from them is not going to solve this problem. These people have no free will to speak of, their minds are enslaved to drugs, if given a chance to either get a job and live under a roof, or get another drug injection and sleep on the streets, the majority would probably choose the drugs, even if deep down they don’t want to. Sometimes people need to be pushed to get them out of a rut.
This is the actual problem. I believe the tent community is so large in Seattle because there are no rules.
People have to want help in order to actually get it. Putting them on an Island is just relocating them so we don't have to see them.
Maybe some rules and jail time would help people wake up to the idea that they actually DO need help and that playtime is over.
At this point... Without doing another useless and costly "study" of this problem, which will not do anything but cause further delays in what needs to be done, like yesterday, by our elected officials. McNeil Island, IMHO, is the best option for a "now" solution. But, I'm sure our elected city, county and State officials just don't want to make any tough decisions that they swore to make and accepted a higher than average pay check, along with all the other perks that comes with being a politician to be our point men and women to handle our problems.
"I" think the toughest issues to this problem is the rules part. Without rules, the program is doomed from the start. Also, the program has to have set and achievable goals, along with rewards for doing well and corrective actions for negative behaviors. I feel that a combined efforts from the State's Department of Corrections, U.S. Public Health Service, the U.S. Veterans Affairs, FEMA (To a point since its a national emergency.) along with the State's National Guards support type units like Military Police, cooks, legal clerks, laundry and engineer type units to help out and the State's Attorney General... When he's not out politicking for a higher office... Sorry for going off the rails on that one!! But the active involvement of the State's Attorney General's office to supervise this emergency operation to ensure that people are humanly treated, respected and their rights are being protected while being temporary "committed" into the Custody of the State for treatment.
Some of the rewards are... Yes, life long drug treatment support... like in Rhode Island, removal of non-violent drug related criminal offenses from their adult records, life skill training courses... Since many, if not most have lost these common sense skills and trade based jobs training in skills where they can earn a living... Outside of Seattle since the CoL inside city limits is way too high anymore and most important, build up their pride and self-worth again by being a productive person... No "hug a thug" treat, but cold, hard reality based training and treatment to get them back on track again. Yes it will cost hundreds of millions of dollars to support these people, but we're already paying hundreds of millions of dollars anyway!!
Again, this will cost hundreds of millions, if not billions a year to end this cycle of drug use and criminal activity that supports the problem. Also, if the McNeil Island Project is a success, offer the program to other States for a user fee to help balance out the cost, once in full motion. If it's successful, I bet the State could qualify for some U.S. Department of Justice project grant monies as well.
...OK!! Time to wake up... Since this will never happen in the PNW because; A) Politics are involved and B) It goes against the State's overall tolerance for individual "self-expression," even at the cost of law and order, QoL issues and the lives of these poor souls. Maybe someday, but not today I'm afraid to say.
It was earlier asked "why do I care?" I answered it in an earlier posting, but "I" left out one part. Like many out there who lost sons, daughters, brothers, sisters husbands, wives and so on, I lost my only son to drugs and the street life here in Seattle. That is why I'm passionate with this issue, that we all face as a community. I hope and pray that my son will come back into the light and do right for himself... That's all "I" want as a father cuz I love my son.
bergun - I'm sorry about your son. At least he's "alive" and still has time to turn his life around. With all the news we have, we're pretty much bombarded by Hollyweird news stories of people passing. These Hollyweird stars and others, like Soundgarden's Chris Cornell found dead by "suicide" are suspect, because some of these people had a lot to live for. He left a wife he loves, plus he had daughters that he loved. I am very suspect of that "suicide." I suspect the Illuminati's hand in his death, as well as Robin Williams' death. Michael Jackson and even David Bowie are said to have faked their deaths. But a drug overdose death is sad, very sad, because those deaths are deaths that could have/should have/would have been prevented. It is up to the addict primarily to save themself.
I live way over in southern New Mexico, but I remember a vibrant downtown in Seattle. What's going on there is a crime. I suggest we re-watch the KOMO program of Eric Johnson's. Don't get brainwashed by politics. Do you liberals really believe that Eric Johnson was drunk on politics when he made this news special? No way! He's sick up and fed with the literal crap he sees out there in the downtown corridor. It needs to be dealt with. I don't see how this isn't a no-brainer for any western Washington taxpayer. All I saw was the parking lot of the Queen Anne Dick's Drive-In restaurant. That was all I needed. These people create a sort of chaos there by their neediness of the bathroom connected out back. The girl kept parading by our 2011 Kia Soul saying how cute our Pomeranian and Chow Chow were, meanwhile she had clothes to wash out in the sink back there and other duties. Yikes. Seattle City Council/King County and the State of Washington need to get off the lazy bugalow and work hard to fix this mega-problem.
It would force me ta move out of downtown if I lived there. I'd probably poach a house up in Snohomish, Woodinville, my old growing-up city of Edmonds, or Everett if I ever returned to my homeland. Everett has a significant portion of its population addicted to drugs and alcohol, too. Check out the Casino Road area by my old employer, Boeing's Everett Division, for proof.
I see this as a sad, sad consequence of failed ideologies and failed government. Get a tighter grip, Seattle. You're going..., let me correct that...you've already lost tourism money and, if you're not careful, some serious health diseases are going to spawn from this debacle. I grew up just north of Seattle. I used to hop in one of my parent's cars and cruise down to Seattle to drive around. A Dick's Deluxe, fries and Coke was usually a stop along the way, and an enjoyable drive downtown enjoying the sights. To do this drive now would sadden me immensely.
But it's not about this guy who's now living in southern New Mexico who was born in Seattle and raised in Edmonds. It's about you guys, residents of King County, really. If I still lived in Edmonds I'd halt my joy rides downtown immediately. This one's not going to end well if something isn't done soon.
bergun - I'm sorry about your son. At least he's "alive" and still has time to turn his life around. With all the news we have, we're pretty much bombarded by Hollyweird news stories of people passing. These Hollyweird stars and others, like Soundgarden's Chris Cornell found dead by "suicide" are suspect, because some of these people had a lot to live for. He left a wife he loves, plus he had daughters that he loved. I am very suspect of that "suicide." I suspect the Illuminati's hand in his death, as well as Robin Williams' death. Michael Jackson and even David Bowie are said to have faked their deaths. But a drug overdose death is sad, very sad, because those deaths are deaths that could have/should have/would have been prevented. It is up to the addict primarily to save themself.
I live way over in southern New Mexico, but I remember a vibrant downtown in Seattle. What's going on there is a crime. I suggest we re-watch the KOMO program of Eric Johnson's. Don't get brainwashed by politics. Do you liberals really believe that Eric Johnson was drunk on politics when he made this news special? No way! He's sick up and fed with the literal crap he sees out there in the downtown corridor. It needs to be dealt with. I don't see how this isn't a no-brainer for any western Washington taxpayer. All I saw was the parking lot of the Queen Anne Dick's Drive-In restaurant. That was all I needed. These people create a sort of chaos there by their neediness of the bathroom connected out back. The girl kept parading by our 2011 Kia Soul saying how cute our Pomeranian and Chow Chow were, meanwhile she had clothes to wash out in the sink back there and other duties. Yikes. Seattle City Council/King County and the State of Washington need to get off the lazy bugalow and work hard to fix this mega-problem.
It would force me ta move out of downtown if I lived there. I'd probably poach a house up in Snohomish, Woodinville, my old growing-up city of Edmonds, or Everett if I ever returned to my homeland. Everett has a significant portion of its population addicted to drugs and alcohol, too. Check out the Casino Road area by my old employer, Boeing's Everett Division, for proof.
I see this as a sad, sad consequence of failed ideologies and failed government. Get a tighter grip, Seattle. You're going..., let me correct that...you've already lost tourism money and, if you're not careful, some serious health diseases are going to spawn from this debacle. I grew up just north of Seattle. I used to hop in one of my parent's cars and cruise down to Seattle to drive around. A Dick's Deluxe, fries and Coke was usually a stop along the way, and an enjoyable drive downtown enjoying the sights. To do this drive now would sadden me immensely.
But it's not about this guy who's now living in southern New Mexico who was born in Seattle and raised in Edmonds. It's about you guys, residents of King County, really. If I still lived in Edmonds I'd halt my joy rides downtown immediately. This one's not going to end well if something isn't done soon.
Elk, Historic North Everett is really nice, you'ld like it up there.
Elk, Historic North Everett is really nice, you'ld like it up there.
homes, yep, I would probably look there. Our first home of our own was in north Everett. Right by Garfield Park and not far from the freeway. We were far enough from I-5 to not hear the traffic noise. My Dad helped me build a white picket fence around the property and we poured a concrete slab for a basketball court in the back right next to the alley. We built a 6-foot wooden fence around the entire backyard for privacy, the white picket fence was in the front yard. Plus, we built a shed with about 64 sq.ft. of storage space inside, too.
When I'm making these comments about downtown Seattle, don't get me wrong, homes. It's not out of anger politically or hate or any kind. It's out of love. I love Seattle - I can't imagine not ever loving Seattle.
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I don't travel much so my question for those that do: Is this happening in other American cities... San Diego, LA, Portland?
It's been my impression that this is a west coast phenomenon and not Seattle specifically. Not that it matters too much either way...
Yes, San Diego, Orange County, Los Angeles, San Franciso, Portland...all the way up to Seattle are experiencing homeless crisis. It really is a West Coast phenomenon.
That is deceiving though. Because NYC is actually 5 cities. They call them bureaus, but they are actually cities! Staten Island is more suburbia than the rest.
Manhattan, Brooklyn, Bronx, Queens and Staten Island. Each with their share of homeless. So divide the NYC number by 5 and that would be more realistic.
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