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Old 09-25-2016, 06:08 PM
 
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People will have to on mass practice pro-active participatory government if Trump wins...it will take a nation to control and guide this egocentric dynamo. It will not be that bad....BUT America can not just sit back and be lazy expecting Trump to run the place single handed. America MUST keep this bull dog under control .....you must realize that he is a representative of YOU....He does will not run things....YOU will.
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Old 09-25-2016, 07:05 PM
 
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
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Trump is scary, but he's a total moron (IMO), and this fact is reflected every time he opens his mouth. I am shocked that he has so many fans. So I am not worried about him (this does not mean I like Hillary; only that I dislike Trump). Because he seems ignorant and clueless, I doubt much will be accomplished should he be elected. I'm not worried.
Consider your down ballot votes very carefully.

I have always spent hours researching every candidate and every issue carefully, but this year it's very important to vote for every Democrat running for Senate and Congress, so that if the unthinkable happens and Trump wins, his policies cannot be implemented. We need checks and balances on this idiot.
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Old 09-25-2016, 07:11 PM
 
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No I wont bug out if that happens.
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Old 09-25-2016, 07:16 PM
 
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Consider your down ballot votes very carefully.

I have always spent hours researching every candidate and every issue carefully, but this year it's very important to vote for every Democrat running for Senate and Congress, so that if the unthinkable happens and Trump wins, his policies cannot be implemented. We need checks and balances on this idiot.
He really does not have any feasible policies to implement. The usual rule by committee will have to take over as usual. He can be used as a figure head like Obama...difference being he as a man will effectively intimidate other world leaders, which is a good thing at this point in time. Clinton will keep self serving bureaucrats happy and it will be the same old same old.

I suppose that a change of the status quo is better than none.
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Old 09-25-2016, 07:20 PM
 
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
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This is a POLITICS thread hidden in the Self-Sufficiency and Preparedness Forum under the guise of "bugging out".

Evidenced by NOBODY talking about bugging out or any type of self sufficiency need.
The guy who is most in need of a bug out bag is Trump himself, because there will be some Patriots who won't let him turn our White House into a gold-fauceted, neon-lit Trump palace nor our country into a Russian outpost.
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Old 09-25-2016, 07:27 PM
 
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
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He really does not have any feasible policies to implement. The usual rule by committee will have to take over as usual. He can be used as a figure head like Obama...difference being he as a man will effectively intimidate other world leaders, which is a good thing at this point in time.
You really think so? I remember Trump's fuzzy-headed logic and indecisiveness on "The Apprentice". I think he would be the laughing stock of the world, and take us along for the ride.
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Old 09-25-2016, 07:28 PM
 
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Secure boarders can not be seen as a sign of isolationism. Boarders are necessary to maintain some sort of sovereignty. Look at the EU. They removed internal boarders and in effect weakened the outer continental perimeter.
Still - I sense that myself as a Canadian - and an old white guy is considered a reject by the American federal establishment. I notice you have creeps setting off explosives in New York...who seem to be welcome to wander about within your boarders....WHILE me a good guy just got a life time ban from entering the USA because of being caught with a tiny marijuana roach back in 1969...

I was deeply hurt by this action after traveling freely in the USA during the last two years. OH...but it is okay...like gangsters wanting a tribute payment...I was told if I gave America 1200 dollars - got a waiver that consists in part of a letter how I have been rehabilitated and am now cured of my criminality....then I am welcome again.

Meanwhile...you have two arch criminals running for the office of President...I do not get it.
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Old 09-25-2016, 07:59 PM
 
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One quick observation (among a host of the others but too many to delineate) but BOARDER is not the same as BORDERS. Umm, just a simple clarification, & I assume it isn't the British spelling or form that is the reason for the misspelling.
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Old 09-25-2016, 09:11 PM
 
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Wins what? A predetermined contest?
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Old 09-25-2016, 09:18 PM
 
Location: Native Floridian, USA
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Although I've always voted Republican I would be embarrassed to have Trump representing the USA. He's a loud mouth buffoon who doesn't think before he opens his big mouth. But on the other hand I'm not voting for Clinton so I'm not sure what I am going to do yet. :-(
You only have two choices, bub.

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Hey, if Trump wins and all of you socialists want to flee the USA, go right ahead. North Korea would definitely be more to your liking.

DEMentia
I had to laugh.

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I don't understand these sorts of conspiracy theories. You do realize that individual counties handle voting, right? I cannot even fathom a scenario in which there could be enough cooperation among the thousands and thousands of election officials across the country -- from all different political stripes -- to rig an election.
You are kidding, right.....? Where have you been for the last few elections. Remember the "hanging chads", boxes of uncounted votes that surfaced after the elections, voters voting more than once, voter intimadation.....really.....

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Alwaleed bin Talal has been bailing Trump out since the '90s. They have recently been putting on a dog and pony show to distance Trump from his Muslim creditors, but he supposedly owes $214 million to Alwaleed. The big reason he is not releasing his income tax returns is that they would show that he has no problem with Muslims as long as they bring money.
Whoa, fellow. That doesn't show up on the tax return (1040)

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You do realize that Trump has already released his corporate and personal financial statement (he did this at the start of his campaign) that would have any reference to debtors and creditor including any money owed to Muslims. (Financial Statements = Profit & Loss Statements-Income & Expenses and Balance Sheet, which would show Liabilities and Assets)##added##

Income tax statements would only shows personal tax liabilities, not (Form 1120)corporate obligations and not any money owed through the company. (Personal Income Tax statements = Form 1040)##added##

The dems and the left leaning media want us to ignore this to make Trump look bad and the uneducated public just falls in step without thinking.

Here's my guess on why he's not releasing his tax statement. It's common knowledge that most proprietorships only take a small wage as the owner so that they can write off corporate expenses and since the proprietor (Trump) is also the owner he can write off most of his personal expenses like his jet.

...snipped.....
We don't know his salary and it may be relatively small but he does live pretty large. The IRS is very aware of write off's that are personal and jumps on that. I would assume that Trumps use of his jet is scrutinized closely by the IRS between business and personal. I had a client that tried to justify a boat as a business expense because he took clients on it.......but, I don't doubt that Trump takes every advantage that he can. You probably do, too.

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People will have to on mass practice pro-active participatory government if Trump wins...it will take a nation to control and guide this egocentric dynamo. It will not be that bad....BUT America can not just sit back and be lazy expecting Trump to run the place single handed. America MUST keep this bull dog under control .....you must realize that he is a representative of YOU....He does will not run things....YOU will.
I have been preaching this for years. We have to do this, no matter who is elected president and representatives and senators......it is our payment for our freedom....

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The guy who is most in need of a bug out bag is Trump himself, because there will be some Patriots who won't let him turn our White House into a gold-fauceted, neon-lit Trump palace nor our country into a Russian outpost.
Oh my. This is not good.

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You really think so? I remember Trump's fuzzy-headed logic and indecisiveness on "The Apprentice". I think he would be the laughing stock of the world, and take us along for the ride.
And Obama hasn't ? Bowing to other heads of state, kicking America every
chance he gets. He is considered a joke around the world...."drawing a line in the sand"....I dare you, I dare you to step over that line !...okay......


You people need to do your research and not on one site or carrier, then make a considered decision who to vote for. I laugh when I read some of this stuff. If Trump wins, I predict he will be a transitional president, maybe 4 years, and that will give everyone one a breather and will break the iron hand of the Clintons and hopefully, the establishment. You do know that the staffers on the Hill runs the government, don't you ? Politicians come and go, but, the staffers stay on, running everything behind the scenes along with the entrenched union employees that can't be fired.......
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