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Old 02-08-2018, 07:29 PM
 
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Simulated gravity through rotation would resolve that, is there a reason it isn't practical?
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Old 02-08-2018, 07:48 PM
 
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Simulated gravity through rotation would resolve that, is there a reason it isn't practical?
Cost and the danger of a spinning device.
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Old 02-09-2018, 11:07 AM
 
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Simulated gravity through rotation would resolve that, is there a reason it isn't practical?


Size, cost and perceived immediate need. The same reasons we haven't returned to the moon actually. The political will and interest just hasn't been there. Which is also why we haven't put humans on Mars yet.
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Old 02-09-2018, 11:11 AM
 
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There is nothing on the Moon. The space race was a military mission to gain the high ground of space. Once that was accomplished, there was no reason to go back.
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Old 02-10-2018, 12:15 PM
 
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There is nothing on the Moon. The space race was a military mission to gain the high ground of space. Once that was accomplished, there was no reason to go back.
What about those large structures the astronauts remarked about? There was a conversation between them and ground control about some of these things, the astronauts could not believe how large they were.
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Old 02-10-2018, 04:47 PM
 
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What about those large structures the astronauts remarked about? There was a conversation between them and ground control about some of these things, the astronauts could not believe how large they were.
Could you be more specific about what large structures you're talking about? Do you have a link for the conversation and shows the structures you're referring to?
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Old 02-11-2018, 11:50 AM
 
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Could you be more specific about what large structures you're talking about? Do you have a link for the conversation and shows the structures you're referring to?
Apollo 11: "I say that there were other spaceships!" Apollo 11, with Neil Armstrong, Michael Collins and Edwin Aldrin was the first Apollo flight to land on the Moon, on July 20, 1969. While Collins flew in orbit around the Moon in the command module, Armstrong and Aldrin descended in the lunar module, landing in the Sea of Tranquillity at 4:17 P.M.
According to hitherto un-confirmed reports, both Neil Armstrong and Edwin "Buzz" Aldrin saw UFOs shortly after that historic landing on the Moon in Apollo 11 on 21 July 1969. I remember hearing one of the astronauts refer to a "light" in or on a crater during the television transmission, followed by a request from mission control for further information. Nothing more was heard.
The following astonishing conversation was picked up by ham radio operators that had their own VHF receiving facilities that bypassed NASA's broadcasting outlets. At this time, the live television broadcast was interrupted for two minutes due to a supposed "overheated camera", but the transmission below was received loud and clear by hundreds of ham radio operators:
According to Otto Binder, who was a member of the NASA space team, when the two moon-walkers, Aldrin and Armstrong were making their rounds some distance from the LEM, Armstrong clutched Aldrin's arm excitedly and exclaimed:
Armstrong: What was it? What the hell was it? That's all I want to know!" Mission Control: What's there?... malfunction (garble) ... Mission Control calling Apollo 11 ...
Apollo 11: These babies were huge, sir!... Enormous!... Oh, God! You wouldn't believe it! ... I'm telling you there are other space-craft out there ... lined up on the far side of the crater edge! ... They're on the Moon watching us! ...
Wilson writes (p. 48): "Binder ends his report with this observation: 'There has, understandably, been no confirmation of this incredible report by NASA or any authorities. WE cannot vouch for its authenticity, but if true, one can surmise that mission control went into a dither and then into a huddle, after which they sternly [ordered] the moonwalkers to 'forget' what they saw and carry on casually and calmly as if nothing had happened. After all, an estimated 600 million people around the world were hanging on every word spoken by the first two men to leave footprints on the Moon."
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Old 02-11-2018, 02:32 PM
 
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Apollo 11: "I say that there were other spaceships!" Apollo 11, with Neil Armstrong, Michael Collins and Edwin Aldrin was the first Apollo flight to land on the Moon, on July 20, 1969. While Collins flew in orbit around the Moon in the command module, Armstrong and Aldrin descended in the lunar module, landing in the Sea of Tranquillity at 4:17 P.M.
According to hitherto un-confirmed reports, both Neil Armstrong and Edwin "Buzz" Aldrin saw UFOs shortly after that historic landing on the Moon in Apollo 11 on 21 July 1969. I remember hearing one of the astronauts refer to a "light" in or on a crater during the television transmission, followed by a request from mission control for further information. Nothing more was heard.
The following astonishing conversation was picked up by ham radio operators that had their own VHF receiving facilities that bypassed NASA's broadcasting outlets. At this time, the live television broadcast was interrupted for two minutes due to a supposed "overheated camera", but the transmission below was received loud and clear by hundreds of ham radio operators:
According to Otto Binder, who was a member of the NASA space team, when the two moon-walkers, Aldrin and Armstrong were making their rounds some distance from the LEM, Armstrong clutched Aldrin's arm excitedly and exclaimed:
Armstrong: What was it? What the hell was it? That's all I want to know!" Mission Control: What's there?... malfunction (garble) ... Mission Control calling Apollo 11 ...
Apollo 11: These babies were huge, sir!... Enormous!... Oh, God! You wouldn't believe it! ... I'm telling you there are other space-craft out there ... lined up on the far side of the crater edge! ... They're on the Moon watching us! ...
Wilson writes (p. 48): "Binder ends his report with this observation: 'There has, understandably, been no confirmation of this incredible report by NASA or any authorities. WE cannot vouch for its authenticity, but if true, one can surmise that mission control went into a dither and then into a huddle, after which they sternly [ordered] the moonwalkers to 'forget' what they saw and carry on casually and calmly as if nothing had happened. After all, an estimated 600 million people around the world were hanging on every word spoken by the first two men to leave footprints on the Moon."
So the structures were suppose to be enormous spacecrafts? What is the source of your quotes? Links please.
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Old 02-12-2018, 07:02 AM
 
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Apollo 11: "I say that there were other spaceships!" Apollo 11, with Neil Armstrong, Michael Collins and Edwin Aldrin was the first Apollo flight to land on the Moon, on July 20, 1969. While Collins flew in orbit around the Moon in the command module, Armstrong and Aldrin descended in the lunar module, landing in the Sea of Tranquillity at 4:17 P.M.
According to hitherto un-confirmed reports, both Neil Armstrong and Edwin "Buzz" Aldrin saw UFOs shortly after that historic landing on the Moon in Apollo 11 on 21 July 1969. I remember hearing one of the astronauts refer to a "light" in or on a crater during the television transmission, followed by a request from mission control for further information. Nothing more was heard.
The following astonishing conversation was picked up by ham radio operators that had their own VHF receiving facilities that bypassed NASA's broadcasting outlets. At this time, the live television broadcast was interrupted for two minutes due to a supposed "overheated camera", but the transmission below was received loud and clear by hundreds of ham radio operators:
According to Otto Binder, who was a member of the NASA space team, when the two moon-walkers, Aldrin and Armstrong were making their rounds some distance from the LEM, Armstrong clutched Aldrin's arm excitedly and exclaimed:
Armstrong: What was it? What the hell was it? That's all I want to know!" Mission Control: What's there?... malfunction (garble) ... Mission Control calling Apollo 11 ...
Apollo 11: These babies were huge, sir!... Enormous!... Oh, God! You wouldn't believe it! ... I'm telling you there are other space-craft out there ... lined up on the far side of the crater edge! ... They're on the Moon watching us! ...
Wilson writes (p. 48): "Binder ends his report with this observation: 'There has, understandably, been no confirmation of this incredible report by NASA or any authorities. WE cannot vouch for its authenticity, but if true, one can surmise that mission control went into a dither and then into a huddle, after which they sternly [ordered] the moonwalkers to 'forget' what they saw and carry on casually and calmly as if nothing had happened. After all, an estimated 600 million people around the world were hanging on every word spoken by the first two men to leave footprints on the Moon."
Ah, yes, the hallowed 'Pepper transcripts' (named for someone calling himself Sam Pepper, who first published them in a book). This dialogue was reportedly broadcast only on Canadian radio. Then NASA supposedly deleted it and swore everyone to secrecy. You know, as part of the massive cover-up. The 1000+ members of the media present at Houston have all stayed silent, too. The story of their lives, and for some reason every last one is doing NASA's bidding. So did all the amateur radio operators following the conversation. Makes sense!

Oh, and Sam Pepper? No one knows who he is. And his book and publisher? It was one of those vanity press deals, where the address is a PO Box in Spokane. But trust him! Take his word for it!

Other problems:
* 'Mission Control'? Apollo 11 never used that phrase. Nor did Houston. The reference was always 'Houston'. A check of the tapes shows this. So, either the crew and Houston both inexplicably suddenly started using the alternate phrase only for the moments of this since-covered-up exchange, or the hoaxer who made up this nonsense wasn't very good at making up crap. Want to take a wild guess at which of these possibilities isn't utterly ridiculous?
* 'Repeat, repeat'? As above, this was never used. It was always 'Say again'.

What does it say about people who are so gullible that they're taking in by such crude and amateurish nonsense?

PS - Back on the Current Events page, there's a recent post by you about the guy who one a billion dollar lottery jackpot, took out an immediate advance on his winnings, and suffered a massive cocaine overdose. The 'source' of that story is a site which is obviously entirely fiction. Just look at the other 'stories'.
Winner of 1.5B Powerball Jackpot Dies of Cocaine Overdose, Partying with Hoes - TMZWORLDSTAR.COM

In other words, rstevens62, you clearly do not possess a functional BS filter.
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Old 02-12-2018, 11:04 AM
 
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Ah, yes, the hallowed 'Pepper transcripts' (named for someone calling himself Sam Pepper, who first published them in a book). This dialogue was reportedly broadcast only on Canadian radio. Then NASA supposedly deleted it and swore everyone to secrecy. You know, as part of the massive cover-up. The 1000+ members of the media present at Houston have all stayed silent, too. The story of their lives, and for some reason every last one is doing NASA's bidding. So did all the amateur radio operators following the conversation. Makes sense!

Oh, and Sam Pepper? No one knows who he is. And his book and publisher? It was one of those vanity press deals, where the address is a PO Box in Spokane. But trust him! Take his word for it!

Other problems:
* 'Mission Control'? Apollo 11 never used that phrase. Nor did Houston. The reference was always 'Houston'. A check of the tapes shows this. So, either the crew and Houston both inexplicably suddenly started using the alternate phrase only for the moments of this since-covered-up exchange, or the hoaxer who made up this nonsense wasn't very good at making up crap. Want to take a wild guess at which of these possibilities isn't utterly ridiculous?
* 'Repeat, repeat'? As above, this was never used. It was always 'Say again'.

What does it say about people who are so gullible that they're taking in by such crude and amateurish nonsense?

PS - Back on the Current Events page, there's a recent post by you about the guy who one a billion dollar lottery jackpot, took out an immediate advance on his winnings, and suffered a massive cocaine overdose. The 'source' of that story is a site which is obviously entirely fiction. Just look at the other 'stories'.
Winner of 1.5B Powerball Jackpot Dies of Cocaine Overdose, Partying with Hoes - TMZWORLDSTAR.COM

In other words, rstevens62, you clearly do not possess a functional BS filter.
When it comes to massive cover-ups like this, most people have it wrong...the Govt and its agencies are EXTREMELY good at keeping them secret.

The recent release of the previously classified JFK files are a good example, in all those years NOT A SINGLE person leaked any of that, think about all the people coming and going from the various agencies over the years. Not to mention the parts that FBI and CIA fought to keep classified, NO ONE has leaked any of these so far either.

The media (then or now) would never release details the Govt did not want. Besides that, some of the astronauts even admitted they were told to keep quiet about this
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